Omni Talk Retail

From Margins to Market Share: A 2025 Retail Deep Dive with BMO Managing Director Simeon Siegel

Jan 20, 2025

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In our latest episode of Omni Talk's Investor Perspectives on Retail and the Consumer, Chris Walton and Anne Mezzenga interview Simeon Siegel, Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets, to discuss the key trends and challenges facing retail and e-commerce as we approach 2025. They dive into topics such as market share, DTC strategy, and the importance of maintaining brand equity.

Key Moments:

0:48 - Chris Walton and Anne Mezzenga introduce Simeon Siegel, Managing Director at BMO Capital Markets.
1:30 – Simeon reflects on the joy of working at the intersection of retail operators and investors, balancing qualitative and quantitative analysis.
2:54 – Simeon shares his background, including the influence of his grandfather’s shoe store and how he developed a passion for retail analysis.
5:38 – A look at Simeon’s day-to-day role, from stock analysis to blending market data with human psychology insights.
8:44 – Simeon recaps 2024 trends, highlighting the return to a market share-driven environment and the shift from macroeconomic challenges to company-specific performances.
10:07 – Discussion on inflation, deflation, and how retailers should focus on microeconomic trends to identify opportunities.
11:38 – Simeon explains how to analyze earnings reports by asking probing questions to separate marketing narratives from business realities.
15:50 – The importance of margins over revenue growth and how brands like Under Armour and Victoria’s Secret can turn around by selling less but charging more.
19:49 – How to identify "quality of sale" as an early indicator of business health, with examples from Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Body Works.
20:50 – Key challenges facing retail C-suites in 2025, with an emphasis on avoiding subjectivity and remaining objective in decision-making.
22:56 – Examples of companies successfully avoiding the subjectivity trap, including Under Armour’s pivot to focusing on quality over quantity.
24:49 – Simeon highlights brands he’s optimistic about for 2025, including Under Armour and Peloton, and why strategy shifts are critical for their success.
27:31 – Insights into TJX as a reliable retail investment and how its business model contrasts with higher-risk brands like Under Armour.
29:30 – Quick-fire brand analysis: Gap, Victoria's Secret, American Eagle
36:30 – The future of direct-to-consumer (DTC): Why DTC is a distribution mechanism, not an identity, and the economic challenges of eliminating middlemen.
41:30 – The TJX model: Why TJX thrives by maintaining minimal e-commerce presence and staying invisible for brand overstock.
43:10 – Clarification on the importance of direct-to-consumer channels for most brands while acknowledging wholesale-only exceptions.
44:32 – Closing remarks from Simeon Siegel, including how listeners can connect with him on LinkedIn.