169 - Richard Rohlin - The Apocalypse and the Return of the King
Jul 30, 2021
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Richard Rohlin, philologist and co-host of the Amon Sûl podcast, discusses the images of Christ and Antichrist in history, drawing on the Book of Revelation and the Sibylline Oracles. They explore Mithridates VI of Pontus as an antichrist figure, the Arthurian legends and their reflection of societal issues, and the concept of the end times and the return of Christ. They also touch on the disruption of traditional trade networks by the discovery of the new world and discuss their book project 'Finding the Golden Key'.
The pattern of Christ and Antichrist is exemplified through figures like Mithridates and Nero, reflecting the potential for evil and resurrection in Western history.
The Arthurian legends symbolize the fractal pattern of illegitimacy and resurrection, with Arthur's return as the once and future king representing redemption and renewal.
The concept of the last Roman emperor recurs in various cultures, depicting the hidden or slumbering leader awaiting the final battle for Christianity's victory.
Deep dives
The pattern of Christ and Antichrist in Western history
The podcast explores the pattern of Christ and Antichrist within Western history, particularly in the medieval Christian world. This pattern is exemplified through figures like Mithridates and Nero, who are perceived as both the embodiment of evil and the potential for resurrection and renewal. The legend of King Arthur also reflects this pattern, with the illegitimate and sinister elements of his story eventually leading to redemption and a glimpse of the once and future king.
The symbolism of Excalibur and Arthur's sterility
The story of Excalibur, Arthur's legendary sword, symbolizes the capacity for both wounding and healing. The sterility of Arthur's marriage and his inability to sire a legitimate heir reflects the fractal pattern of illegitimacy and resurrection found throughout the Arthurian legends. The death of Arthur and his passage to Avalon, accompanied by magical women in the sea, further highlights the mysterious nature of this pattern. Arthur's return as the once and future king signifies his role in the cosmic pattern of redemption and renewal.
The role of Morgan Le Fay and the problem of incest
Morgan Le Fay, often associated with witchcraft, plays a crucial role in the Arthurian legend as the character who steals Arthur's seed and perpetuates the pattern of illegitimacy. The theme of incest and sexual deviancy within the legend reflects the struggle to reconcile darkness and redemption, culminating in the destruction of the round table and the rise of the Saxons. However, redemption and transformation are also present in the story, as characters like Lancelot and Guinevere repent and pursue holy lives as monks and nuns.
Resurrection and the eschaton in the Arthurian legends
The Arthurian legends portray a mystery of resurrection and the eschaton, where the seed falls to earth or the edge of the world and sprouts anew in unexpected ways. The pattern of Christ and Antichrist is manifested through the illegitimate offspring, the death of Arthur, the return of Excalibur to the Lady of the Lake, and Arthur's passage to Avalon. These elements hint at the ultimate transformation and redemption of the world, with Arthur remaining as the once and future king who will return in the eschaton.
The Difficulties of Distinguishing Between Antichrist and the Resurrection
The podcast episode explores the challenge of differentiating between the return of Antichrist and the resurrection. Although they share similarities, it is crucial to recognize the differences. This resemblance can lead to confusion and even deceive believers, as some antichrist figures may appear like the resurrection. This difficulty in distinguishing between the two concepts is one reason why some Christians struggle with the notion of universalism, as they believe all will be accounted for in the end, but there will still be aspects that remain outside the realm of salvation.
The Return of the Last Roman Emperor and the Victory of Christ
The podcast delves into the concept of the last Roman emperor and how this pattern recurs in various cultures and legends throughout history. The last Roman emperor is depicted as hidden or slumbering, waiting for the final battle against the enemies of Christianity. This pattern is not exclusive to the story of Arthur in Britain but also appears in tales of Charlemagne in France and Frederick II in the Holy Roman Empire. Similarly, the legend of the last Roman emperor manifests itself in Denmark and Ethiopia. In these legends, the last emperor returns to lead a final Christian conquest and ultimately hands the kingdom over to Christ, culminating in the victory of God and the righteous.
Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is my second interview with Richard Rohlin, philologist and co-host of the Amon Sûl podcast. We continue to explore history through the symbolic lens, paying particular attention to the images of Christ and Antichrist. Throughout our conversation we draw on the Book of Revelation and the Sibylline Oracles, discussing Mithradates VI of Pontus, the Roman Emperor Nero and his return as an antichrist figure, the Arthurian legends and the combination of violent tyranny and decadence as manifestations of the end of a world. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLFK7Lo0Zw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.
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