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The Four Big Structural Forces Holding Back China's Economy

Aug 21, 2023
Zongyuan Zoe Liu, a Maurice R. Greenberg Fellow for China Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations and author of 'Sovereign Funds', discusses the current struggles of the Chinese economy. She highlights the 'four Ds'—demand, debt, demographics, and decoupling—as major hindrances to recovery. Liu analyzes the government's economic policies, the impact of demographic shifts on real estate, and the role of sovereign wealth funds in navigating these challenges. The conversation offers a deep look at how China’s financial strategies are shaped by both internal and external pressures.
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Quick takeaways

  • The four D's (demand, demographics, debt, and decoupling) are acting as persistent drags on China's economy, impacting housing demand, household income growth, and trade tensions.
  • China's sovereign wealth funds, like the China Investment Corporation, have evolved to support foreign policy initiatives like the Belt and Road Initiative, but may need to address systemic risks and protect China's interests in the face of geopolitical shifts and potential sanctions.

Deep dives

China's Weak Economic Data

Recent economic data from China has shown signs of weakness, including an emergency rate cut and a decline in retail sales and manufacturing. This is in contrast to earlier expectations that China's reopening would drive global growth.

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