The Lawfare Podcast

Lawfare Archive: Jack Goldsmith and Bob Bauer on Reforming the Insurrection Act

Jun 19, 2025
Jack Goldsmith, a Harvard Law professor and Lawfare co-founder, teams up with Bob Bauer, a distinguished scholar from NYU, to tackle the Insurrection Act's reform. They explore its historical use and contemporary relevance, highlighting the urgent need for clearer definitions to prevent executive overreach. The duo discusses proposed reforms for accountability, including consultations with state governors and congressionally mandated reporting. Their engaging dialogue emphasizes the importance of bipartisan efforts to protect civil liberties while ensuring public safety.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Transcript
Episode notes
INSIGHT

Broad Presidential Power Risks Misuse

  • The Insurrection Act grants presidents broad discretion to deploy military forces domestically in emergencies.
  • Its vague conditions risk misuse, necessitating clearer and tighter legal constraints.
ANECDOTE

Historical Enforcements of Federal Law

  • The Insurrection Act was notably used to enforce desegregation during the Civil Rights era.
  • Such interventions ensured federal law was respected when state authorities failed.
INSIGHT

Bipartisan Stakes in Act's Abuse

  • The Insurrection Act shows why both political parties must guard against its abuse.
  • Its power can be necessary yet potentially harmful, affecting state-federal relations and military politicization.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app