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Campfires Not Stadiums: Building Belonging: Charles Vogl

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Nov 19, 2025
Charles Vogl, author of The Art of Community, shares his insights on building trust and belonging in organizations. He discusses the importance of rejecting the superhero myth of leadership, advocating for interdependence over self-reliance. Vogl highlights the value of creating sacred spaces for vulnerability and how small, consistent gatherings—what he calls ‘campfires’—are more effective for fostering community than grand events. He offers practical advice for leaders on modeling openness and establishing cultural norms.
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INSIGHT

Reject The Superman Leadership Myth

  • Leadership maturity requires rejecting the myth that individuals must do it all alone.
  • Charles Vogl argues interdependence yields far greater collective returns than solo heroics.
ADVICE

Create A Set-Aside Space

  • Create a separate, set-aside space where the usual rules don't apply to enable different behaviour.
  • Use a host, closed doors, and clear new roles to protect that sacred space.
ANECDOTE

Ritualized Dinners With Veterans

  • Vogl describes running ritualized dinners for veterans to change rules and encourage sharing.
  • Closing the door and using a host made it possible for warfighters to disclose struggles safely.
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