MICC Reformers: Sprey, Boyd, Spinney, Kay, Christie and the A-10 with Hal Sundt

Jun 3, 2024

Hal Sundt, author of 'Warplane,' delves into the fascinating story of the A-10 Warthog's development, highlighting key figures like John Boyd and Pierre Sprey. The episode covers the intense rivalry between the Army and Air Force, the A-X program's inception, and the competitive flyoff between the YF-16 and YF-17. It also explores the innovative testing processes that ensured the A-10's operational success and resilience.

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Introduction

00:00 • 5min

Evolution of A10 Development and Close-air Support in Vietnam War Era

05:11 • 4min

Pierre and the Military Innovations

09:33 • 12min

Intrigue and Strategy at the Pentagon: Tom Christie's Influence

21:29 • 2min

The Evolution of the A10 Aircraft

23:45 • 16min

From Fighter Aircraft Development to Testing: The A-10 Chronicles

39:57 • 28min

Reflections on Chuck Spinni, Pierre Sprey, and Mission-Focused Innovation

01:08:02 • 17min

Exploring Connections and Adaptation in Various Topics

01:24:35 • 3min

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MICC: Military Industrial Congressional Complex

What happens when military reformers and visionary designers join forces to create an aircraft that's both a formidable war machine and a testament to innovative thinking?

In this episode, we uncover the riveting story behind the development of the A-10 Warthog, an aircraft that's as iconic as it is effective. Listen to Hal Sundt, author of "Warplane," as he shares his journey from an airplane enthusiast to a writer captivated by the principles of human-centered design and military strategy. Through Hal's narrative, we explore the collaboration of key figures like John Boyd, Pierre Sprey, Chuck Spinney, and Tom Christie, whose revolutionary ideas brought the A-10 to life.

We'll traverse the strategic and political landscape of the Pentagon, diving into the intense rivalry between the Army and Air Force over close air support missions. Learn about the inception of the A-X program by Pierre Sprey and Colonel Avery Kay, and the pivotal role of A1 Skyraider pilots in shaping the A-10's foundation. The episode also uncovers fascinating details about the competitive flyoff between the YF-16 and YF-17, and how John Boyd's and Tom Christie's Energy-Maneuverability (E-M) theory influenced modern aviation. Get a behind-the-scenes look at the rigorous and innovative testing processes, from the use of Soviet weapons to improvised wind tunnels, all of which ensured the A-10's operational success and resilience.

Finally, we'll celebrate the storied history and enduring legacy of the A-10, from its Cold War origins to its remarkable performance in the Gulf War and beyond. Hear about the continued relevance and effectiveness of the A-10, despite pressures to retire it in favor of newer models like the F-35. We also pay tribute to the late Pierre Sprey, reflecting on his critical views and practical design philosophy that contrasted sharply with more idealistic approaches.

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