Dean Dan Hunter chats with Tom Dreyfus, CEO and co-founder of the Melbourne-based legal technology firm Josef. Josef gives both practitioners and law students a leg up in creating bots - automated processes for legal analysis - without expecting lawyers to know how to code and without expecting that legal experts should be cut out of the professional loop.

Dan and Tom talk about Tom's path to leadership: a law degree, followed by an early career in law practice, and then the world of entrepreneurship in robotics and legaltech - all without a computer science background.

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Tom Dreyfus, CEO and Co-Founder of Josef