
Future Law Podcast
This podcast cuts through the noise surrounding the future of law. All over the world and across all sectors, expanding and accelerating technologies are changing our lives and even changing us. How can the law and the legal profession keep up with all the changes? Law professors Michael Madison (US) and Dan Hunter (Australia) take a global view of the law and technology ecosystem, talking to lawyers, entrepreneurs, educators, students, and thought leaders across for-profit, non-profit, and government sectors.
Latest episodes

Feb 7, 2023 • 29min
What We’ve Learned About ALSPs: Wrapping Up the Season
In this final episode of this season of The Future Law Podcast, Mike and Dan chat about what they’ve both learnt about ALSPs, what’s to come of them and how they impact both the legaltech world and the world of law generally.
We’ll be back next season for more on law and technology.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 31, 2023 • 29min
What AI and Data Science Can Do For Law Firms
In this week’s episode, Mike Madison chats with Michael Morneualt, a senior lawyer and litigation consultant now with Lighthouse, who has watched ALSPs grow and evolve from multiple perspectives: as a practicing lawyer, in business development, and as a long-time leader of a tech-driven litigation support and investigations practice.
Michael talks extensively about changing patterns among ALSPs and dispute resolution, and how data science is influencing other areas of law practice.
Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 24, 2023 • 26min
How Change Can Improve Law Firms
Former Chief Legal Innovation Officer at Freshfields, Isabel Parker, discusses the challenges faced by law firms in implementing transformative change. She highlights the importance of organizational structure, culture, diversity, and agility in successful digital transformation. The podcast also explores the emergence of alternative legal service providers and the involvement of big four accounting firms in the provision of legal services.

Jan 17, 2023 • 25min
How To Fix America's Voting System
We’re back to continue the season for 2023!
Every now and then we a broader view of the future of law, beyond ALSPs, and in this episode we do just that.
Mike Madison chats with Eric Holder, former Attorney General of the US under President Barack Obama, about the critical importance of defending and advancing voting rights in the American system and in democracy generally.
The conversation draws on his recent book, "Our Unfinished March."
What are your thoughts?
Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Book: ‘Our Unfinished March’ by Eric Holder and Sam Koppelman
Hosts: Mike Madison and Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 14, 2022 • 29min
A Brighter, Balanced Future for AI and Law
Law professor Orly Lobel discusses her book on the potential of AI and robots to create a brighter, more inclusive future. She explores the impact of technology on access to justice, healthcare, and legal representation. The podcast also touches on automated sentencing algorithms and the use of digital platforms for affordable legal services.

Dec 6, 2022 • 28min
Speculation vs Data About Law's Futures
What if we stopped speculating about ALSPs and instead started collecting data to gather useful information? That’s exactly what this episode is about.
Host Mike Madison talks with Lucy Ricca and David Freeman Engstrom from Stanford Law School's Deborah L. Rhode Center on the Legal Profession about their research into the results so far of Utan's "regulatory sandbox" innovation, which created space for non-traditional providers of legal services.
Their report, titled "Legal Innovation After Reform: Evidence from Regulatory Change," is available here.
The Future Law Podcast produced this earlier episode about the creation of the "regulatory sandbox" in Utah.
Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSPs and law.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 29, 2022 • 29min
Taking The Long View With Alternative Providers
Mike chats with Bill Henderson, a law professor at the University of Indiana who has been studying the legal services marketplace closely for nearly 20 years. Looking at “alternative” providers, he tells us what’s changed, what’s more or less the same, and what’s coming.
Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya TaherzadehSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 22, 2022 • 27min
What It Takes to Stay in the ALSP Game
David Pierce, Chief Commercial Officer of Axiom, discusses the skills needed to succeed in the new legal profession, the concept of the 'great resignation' and the future of legal practice, interactions with law students, and the future prospects of Axiom as a law firm provider.

Nov 15, 2022 • 29min
The Continuing Importance of Classic Legal Skills
The emergence of ALSPs and legaltech doesn’t change some fundamentals of lawyering and dispute resolution. Jon Harris, founder and managing partner of Harris St. Laurent & Wechsler, a boutique law firm in New York specializing in employment law and white collar criminal defense, talks with Michael Madison about blending classic legal skills and multidisciplinary experience.
Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Nov 8, 2022 • 27min
How To Source Legal Talent
Despite double-digit salary growth in the legal industry, many firms are grappling with serious staffing concerns.
So what do you do about it? Do you look outside your geographic boundaries? Or do you simply train up young lawyers? Alternative Legal Service Providers (ALSPs) offer a range of solutions.
Mike Madison chats with the founders of LegalEase Solutions, Tariq Hafeez and Tariq Akbar, about their approach to delivering the right legal talent to law departments and corporate counsel.
Make sure you tune in every Tuesday for everything legaltech, ALSP’s and law.
Head to www.thefuturelawpodcast.com for more information.
Thanks for listening!
CREDITS:
Hosts: Mike Madison & Dan Hunter
Executive Producer/Editor: Pariya Taherzadeh
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.