Nancy and Sarah discuss two recent dust-ups between men and women: One is fraught and potentially career-damaging, the other is (arguably) romantic, but also potentially legacy-damaging. Trump’s nominee to lead the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, is facing scandal that stems from a 2017 encounter at a Republican women’s convention, and the details are … confusing? Don’t really add up? Then we discuss the secret muse of Cormac McCarthy, 64-year-old Finnish lass Augusta Britt, who shares the story of her underage love affair (and lifelong connection) with McCarthy in a Vanity Fair story that was much-loved and much-trashed. Wanna guess where we fell?

Also discussed:

* Can anyone pronounce the last name Hegseth?

* The detail that brought the case together for Nancy

* Never name your bar “Knuckles”

* What if he were in a blackout, and she wasn’t …

* Cock-clock, crotch-block, what?

* The two foods all men love

* “We don’t get enough Finnish chutzpah”

* “Well baby, that’s what I do. I’m a writer.”

* Nancy just keeps vibrating

* Purple prose? Bring it

* The case of Joyce Maynard

* Sarah is really mad at Wicked

Plus, controversy over a writer’s hair, Nancy’s stuffing recipe, and more!