

Brooke Talks AI With Ed Zitron
61 snips Jan 29, 2025
Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast and writer of the insightful newsletter "Where's Your Ed At?", dives into the competitive AI landscape with Brooke Gladstone. They discuss how China's DeepSeek R model has emerged as a formidable player, produced at a fraction of the cost and time of U.S. counterparts. Zitron critiques OpenAI's financial struggles despite high revenues and highlights the industry's obsession with trends like the metaverse, questioning the sustainability of current tech models and the risks posed by monopolistic practices.
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AI Bubble Narrative Challenged
- The AI bubble, particularly companies like Anthropic and OpenAI, is built on a narrative of expensive GPUs and massive data centers.
- DeepSeek has challenged this narrative by building comparable models much cheaper.
DeepSeek's Innovative Approach
- DeepSeek, growing from a Chinese hedge fund, stockpiled GPUs before sanctions and used less powerful ones.
- They innovated training and inference methods, publishing their research and open-sourcing their models.
Challenging the Cost Narrative
- DeepSeek's model training cost $5.5 million, compared to OpenAI's $100 million for GPT-4.
- This reveals that expensive GPUs and massive data centers may not be necessary for competitive AI models.