Firewalls Don't Stop Dragons Podcast

Decentralized Messaging

Jan 5, 2026
Kee Jeffreys, CEO and founder of the privacy-focused Session app, dives into the intriguing world of decentralized messaging. He explains how Session operates without phone numbers and relies on a network of nodes for security. Jeffreys discusses the importance of protecting metadata, the benefits of open source software, and how features like Perfect Forward Secrecy and post-quantum encryption enhance user privacy. He also highlights why privacy matters to everyone, as well as the innovative economic model behind the Session network.
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INSIGHT

Three Pillars Of Session's Privacy

  • Session combines cryptographic IDs, a decentralized node network, and onion routing to reduce metadata leakage.
  • Kee Jeffreys argues those three features together uniquely protect privacy compared with centralized messengers.
ANECDOTE

Relocation And Decentralized Resilience

  • Kee describes moving stewardship into the Session Technology Foundation in Switzerland after pressure in Australia.
  • He says decentralization plus open source makes it hard for legal coercion to force secret changes.
ADVICE

Treat Messaging Data As At-Risk

  • Protect your conversations because data breaches make leaked messages exploitable and persistent.
  • Kee recommends using privacy-preserving apps like Session if you've been caught in breaches or want to limit long-term exposure.
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