To celebrate the end of our first year at The Hidden 20%, we’re bringing back a familiar face from day one: Carrie Grant!

This time, Carrie is joined by her husband, David Grant — the legendary vocal coaches from Pop Idol and Fame Academy. But beyond their iconic careers, the Grants are parents to four neurodivergent children, making them the perfect guests to explore what a neurodivergent Christmas looks like.

In this chat with Ben, Carrie and David share why Christmas should come with zero expectations, the importance of unmasking as neurodivergent parent, why they allow their children to “walk away” on Christmas Day, the reality of gift-giving to neurodivergent children and the changes they hope to see in 2025.

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On "The Hidden 20%," host Ben Branson chats with neurodivergent [ADHD, Autism, Dyscalculia, Dyslexia, Dyspraxia, Tourette's etc.] creatives, entrepreneurs, and experts to see how great minds.. think differently.

Host: Ben Branson

Producer: Bella Neale

Video Editor: Panos Agamemnos

Social Media Manager: Charlie Young

Music: Jackson Greenberg

Brought to you by charity The Hidden 20% #1203348

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