

Steve and Lisa Cuss Navigate the Four Spaces of Anxiety and Deeper Connectivity
Aug 25, 2025
Toni Collier, a vibrant speaker known for her insights on community healing and vulnerability, joins Steve and Lisa Cuss for an engaging discussion. They explore the Four Spaces of Anxiety and how it affects our relationships, emphasizing the power of vulnerability and intentional communities. The couple shares personal stories and practical tools for navigating anxiety in parenting and ministry, advocating for open dialogue and empathy. Ultimately, they highlight how authentic connections can break the cycle of anxiety and foster healthier families and neighborhoods.
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Four Distinct Spaces Explain Reactivity
- The four spaces are: inside you, between you and another, inside the other person, and within a group.
- Distinguishing these spaces stops guessing and reduces reactivity.
Why 'Third Space' Fuels Misunderstanding
- Third space is the content inside another person you must guess because they haven't spoken it.
- Making unknown inner states visible (second space) prevents harmful assumptions.
Obsessed With Troubleshooting, Missed Presence
- Steve describes getting obsessively focused on technical problems and missing presence with Lisa.
- He labels this as new awareness of old behavior, not moral failure.