093 Tom Webster | The Delicate Art of Conveying Difficult Subjects in the Form of Storytelling
Jun 8, 2016
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Tom Webster, vice president of Edison Research and co-host of The Marketing Companion podcast, talks about podcast standards, trends in podcasting, podcast discovery, and tips for increasing podcast audience. He also discusses the art of conveying difficult subjects through storytelling and the power of engaging the audience. Tom shares insights on podcast statistics, the recent Infinite Dial Report, and the importance of presenting numbers properly.
Podcasters should engage with a wider range of listeners, not just their core fans.
Using storytelling techniques can make data-heavy subjects more engaging and understandable.
Laughing together fosters a deeper bond between partners and creates a sense of joy and connection.
Deep dives
The Importance of Understanding Different Audience Circles
It is important for podcasters to be aware of the different concentric circles of their audience and not just focus on their core fans. By understanding and engaging with a wider range of listeners, podcasters can avoid over-optimizing to a smaller group and potentially missing out on a larger audience.
The Power of Storytelling in Presenting Statistics
When presenting statistics or data-heavy subjects, it is crucial to use storytelling techniques to make the information more engaging and understandable for the audience. By using relatable stories and analogies, podcasters can make complex concepts more accessible and memorable to listeners.
The Value of Laughing Together in a Relationship
Laughing together with a partner is an important aspect of a healthy relationship. Sharing laughter can create a sense of joy and connection, fostering a deeper bond between partners.
The Need for Curiosity and Critical Thinking in Marketing
To be effective marketers, it is essential to cultivate curiosity and critical thinking. Marketers should not just tailor their messages to their core audience, but also consider the broader circles of potential listeners. By being open-minded, marketers can identify new opportunities and adjust their strategies accordingly.
Reevaluating Beliefs and Adapting with New Information
It is important to be open to new information and reevaluate one's beliefs based on that information. Adapting and changing one's perspective when faced with new evidence is a sign of growth and a willingness to learn.
Tom Webster is a marketing executive and the vice president of Edison Research. He also co-hosts his own podcast, The Marketing Companion, with Mark Schaefer. Tom has been in the broadcast research industry for 25 years and has quite a bit to share on the topics of interviewing, storytelling, and podcast statistics.
05:45 - Tom believes the standards in podcasting have gotten better.
07:25 - How did Tom meet his co-host, Mark?
10:15 - Tom has been in media and broadcast research for almost 25 years.
12:25 - What kind of podcast/radio trends has Tom seen over at Edison?
17:20 - Tom shares some examples of people who are able to make that jump from radio to podcasting.
19:20 - There's a percentage of Millennials who don't know what podcasts are.
21:25 - Podcast discovery is still a huge problem.
22:55 - Tips on increasing your podcast audience: figure out what you're good at.
23:35 - Study the greats.
24:35 - Most things you hear from public media is scripted.
27:00 - Inside jokes do not work well on a podcast.
29:25 - Tom enjoys Jordan Harbinger's interviewing style.
32:30 - What's the best way to present statistics?
36:40 - Tom shares what surprised him the most on The Infinite Dial 2016 report.
41:35 - What should people be thinking about when marketing their podcast?
46:10 - What has Tom changed his mind about recently?
47:25 - What is the most misunderstood thing about Tom?
48:05 - When was the last time Tom laughed out loud?