We are joined this week by the noted author and historian Lindsay M. Chervinsky. She and Clay S. Jenkinson have a lively and insightful discussion about the often strained relations between George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

You can find Dr. Chervinsky's website and newsletter here: https://www.lindsaychervinsky.com/

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