This week we have the honor of speaking with a leader in the world of physical therapy and pain care across the world.

Adriaan Louw has had a massive impact on me and the direction of my career.  He is a great model of humility and generosity.

We discuss where we were, where we are, and where we need to go in pain care.

It was a great conversation, and I hope you all enjoy it!

00:00 Introduction
02:05 Adriaan's professional roller coaster
05:54 Moving past find it fix it
09:36 State of DPT education
14:05 Research on kids and pain
17:24 Where are we with lifestyle medicine?
20:29 Dealing with systemic barriers
25:35 Why the struggle to get our message to the consumer?
31:03 Are research methods capturing the patient's voice
34:48 Immunology in pain care
38:18 Recommendations for DPT students and early career professionals

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