
Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Black Political Power and Jesse Jackson, With Abby Phillip! Plus, Elections Galore and a Red Alert for Hip-Hop. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Oct 31, 2025
This week, Abby Phillip, CNN anchor and author of 'A Dream Deferred,' joins the discussion. She delves into Jesse Jackson's vital role in the fight for Black political power and examines his impactful legacy. The conversation also highlights the challenges of multiracial unity in politics today. Furthermore, the hosts dissect the alarming absence of rap songs in the Billboard Hot 100 and explore how cultural and industry shifts are threatening hip-hop's traditional dominance. A thought-provoking dialogue filled with valuable insights!
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Identity Isn’t A Sufficient Political Bond
- Winsome Sears uses identity politics to position herself but her policies diverge sharply from leaders like Obama.
- Van and Rachel argue identity alone doesn't justify political support without aligned policies and values.
A Conservative Streak Exists In Black America
- Van argues there's a conservative streak in Black America rooted in church and culture.
- He says Republicans could court more Black votes if their base weren't openly racist.
Judge Politicians By Policy, Not Party
- Van urges evaluating politicians by specific policies rather than party labels.
- He calls for granular, person-first analysis over reflexive partisan celebration.




