

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
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Dec 30, 2025 • 2h 21min
Do the Epstein Files Matter? Is Rachel an Auntie? Plus, Interracial Relationships and a New Diddy Doc
Van and Rachel dive into the controversial new Epstein documents, questioning their significance and trustworthiness. The duo playfully debates the 'auntie' label and the dynamics of social media platforms like Threads versus Twitter. They tackle topics like interracial relationships, the backlash against Chappelle, and the newly released Diddy documentary. Insights into Nigerian strikes and a humorous take on a violent Russian reality show round out their engaging discussion. Get ready for spirited conversations and thought-provoking insights!

Dec 26, 2025 • 25min
Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz and the Legacy of Malcolm X
Dr. Ilyasah Shabazz, the third daughter of Malcolm X and acclaimed author, shares insights on her father's enduring autobiography. She emphasizes its relevance in shaping identity and understanding history. Ilyasah dives into misconceptions about her family, highlighting Betty Shabazz's strength. She reflects on the impact of Islam in their lives and stresses the importance of reclaiming Black history. Ilyasah also encourages young people to read her father's work, urging them to find their identity and battle misinformation about the past.

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Dec 23, 2025 • 2h 12min
Jeffrey Epstein, Nicki Minaj, and the Streets
The latest discussion dives deep into the unsettling revelations from the recent Epstein file dump. Nicki Minaj's surprising appearance at a conservative conference raises questions about celebrity influence and political alignments. Dave Chappelle's new Netflix special sparks a debate on comedy versus societal impact, especially around controversial themes. The hosts tackle the 'f--k the streets' controversy in hip-hop, sharing personal stories that contrast glamorized rap with harsh realities. They also recap the dramatic Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fight, highlighting boxing's cultural significance.

Dec 19, 2025 • 2h 10min
Epstein Distractions, Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent, and Van’s N-Word Game
Van and Rachel discuss the dysfunction in the FBI and the Trump administration as a whole in the lead-up to the release of more Epstein files. Plus, Keith Edwards sparks debate on criticisms of candidates. Then, Dr. Umar weighs in on the Netflix Diddy documentary, and Van introduces a new game.
(0:00) Intro
(3:48) Dysfunction in the FBI
(29:57) Epstein distractions
(39:32) Vivek Ramaswamy and the American dream
(47:03) Keith Edwards and Jasmine Crockett
(1:23:52) Dr. Umar vs. 50 Cent
(1:38:47) Van’s N---a Number Game
(1:59:55) Young Thug proposes to Mariah the Scientist
Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
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Dec 16, 2025 • 1h 59min
The Reiner Family Tragedy, Mass Shootings, and an Uncle Nearest Apology Rating
Van and Rachel delve into a tragic weekend marked by the killings of Rob and Michele Reiner, sparking discussions on addiction and responses from public figures. They tackle the mass shooting at Brown University and debate cultural acceptance of such violence. The return of Philip Rivers resurrects the Colin Kaepernick conversation, highlighting systemic issues in the NFL. The hosts also assess an apology from Fawn Weaver after a controversial incident. Finally, they explore Atlanta's leading role in OnlyFans spending and its implications.

Dec 12, 2025 • 2h 20min
Jasmine Crockett vs. James Talarico, Sherrone Moore Arrested, and Rachel Dating Drug Dealers
Marc Caputo, a seasoned political reporter from Axios, joins the conversation to delve into the U.S. strategies against Venezuela and the political shifts happening in Miami. They unpack Trump’s pressure on Maduro and discuss the implications of recent sanctions. The discussion also touches on the local political climate in Miami, especially regarding Cuban-American voters and generational changes. Additionally, Van and Rachel critique cultural representation, reflecting on the awards exclusion of the film 'Sinners' and its significance in Black art.

Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 44min
L.A. Hip-Hop Culture With Nana, and Sydney Sweeney Speaks
Van and Rachel dive into the vibrant L.A. hip-hop scene with rapper Nana, exploring cultural identity and the evolution of the industry. Nana highlights the impact of TikTok on musical talent and the need for authenticity in rap. The conversation shifts to Sydney Sweeney's controversial ad campaign, analyzing its potential fallout on her career. They also score comedic exchanges between Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman, offering a playful take on sports debates and media dynamics.

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Dec 5, 2025 • 2h 5min
Talking Reparations and “Black Boy Tragic” With Governor Wes Moore! Plus, the Diddy Documentary and BD Wong’s Apology Rating. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Join Maryland Governor Wes Moore, a former author and nonprofit leader, as he discusses pressing issues like reparations, child poverty, and his direct talks with Donald Trump. He elaborates on why he vetoed a reparations study in favor of immediate action and shares insights on tackling child poverty through innovative programs like the ENOUGH Act. Moore also reflects on his journey and the importance of mentorship for young boys and girls. With a focus on state policy, he highlights the successes of Maryland's community initiatives.

Dec 2, 2025 • 2h 10min
Pete Hegseth’s Investigation, and the Danish Deception
Van and Rachel dive into the controversial investigation of boat strikes, questioning ethical implications and community safety. They unravel the gripping TikTok saga of a Danish fraudster, exploring themes of financial manipulation and societal values. The duo emphasizes the crucial need for financial literacy among NFL players, advocating for smart investments to build generational wealth. They also tackle the cultural significance of HBCU traditions and critique Stephen A. Smith's transition from sports to politics, all while sharing a heartwarming story of a father-daughter dance in prison.

Nov 25, 2025 • 2h 4min
Trump Hearts Mamdani, MAGA Bots Exposed, and the Summer Walker Drama Explained
This discussion dives into the surprising cordiality of Trump's meeting with Mamdani and the political implications behind it. The hosts analyze the double standards in media coverage of such interactions, particularly through the lens of gender and race. They introduce a game revealing how many MAGA accounts are bot-run from abroad, exposing foreign disinformation networks. The podcast also addresses the fallout from RFK Jr.'s scandalous poetry and critiques the recent NBA drama between Klay Thompson and Ja Morant, before diving into Summer Walker's complicated relationship dynamics.


