

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 1h 44min
L.A. Hip-Hop Culture With Nana, and Sydney Sweeney Speaks
Van and Rachel dive into the vibrant L.A. hip-hop scene with rapper Nana, exploring cultural identity and the evolution of the industry. Nana highlights the impact of TikTok on musical talent and the need for authenticity in rap. The conversation shifts to Sydney Sweeney's controversial ad campaign, analyzing its potential fallout on her career. They also score comedic exchanges between Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman, offering a playful take on sports debates and media dynamics.

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Dec 5, 2025 • 2h 5min
Talking Reparations and “Black Boy Tragic” With Governor Wes Moore! Plus, the Diddy Documentary and BD Wong’s Apology Rating. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Join Maryland Governor Wes Moore, a former author and nonprofit leader, as he discusses pressing issues like reparations, child poverty, and his direct talks with Donald Trump. He elaborates on why he vetoed a reparations study in favor of immediate action and shares insights on tackling child poverty through innovative programs like the ENOUGH Act. Moore also reflects on his journey and the importance of mentorship for young boys and girls. With a focus on state policy, he highlights the successes of Maryland's community initiatives.

Dec 2, 2025 • 2h 10min
Pete Hegseth’s Investigation, and the Danish Deception
Van and Rachel dive into the controversial investigation of boat strikes, questioning ethical implications and community safety. They unravel the gripping TikTok saga of a Danish fraudster, exploring themes of financial manipulation and societal values. The duo emphasizes the crucial need for financial literacy among NFL players, advocating for smart investments to build generational wealth. They also tackle the cultural significance of HBCU traditions and critique Stephen A. Smith's transition from sports to politics, all while sharing a heartwarming story of a father-daughter dance in prison.

Nov 25, 2025 • 2h 4min
Trump Hearts Mamdani, MAGA Bots Exposed, and the Summer Walker Drama Explained
This discussion dives into the surprising cordiality of Trump's meeting with Mamdani and the political implications behind it. The hosts analyze the double standards in media coverage of such interactions, particularly through the lens of gender and race. They introduce a game revealing how many MAGA accounts are bot-run from abroad, exposing foreign disinformation networks. The podcast also addresses the fallout from RFK Jr.'s scandalous poetry and critiques the recent NBA drama between Klay Thompson and Ja Morant, before diving into Summer Walker's complicated relationship dynamics.

Nov 21, 2025 • 1h 43min
Senator Brian Schatz On Trying to Comprehend MAGA. Plus, Men’s Views on the WNBA With Angel McCoughtry! | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Senator Brian Schatz, a U.S. Senator from Hawaii, discusses his tweet about engaging MAGA supporters, emphasizing coalition-building and pragmatic policy strategies. He dives into the challenges of converting disillusioned voters and the importance of working with diverse political allies to achieve meaningful change. WNBA legend Angel McCoughtry joins to tackle men’s often dismissive comments about the WNBA, highlighting the need for respect and visibility for women athletes while addressing the cultural pressures driving these comparisons. Her insights prompt a deeper conversation about the evolution of women's sports.

Nov 18, 2025 • 1h 51min
MAGA Regrets, Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Apology, and Pharrell’s Philosophy
Van and Rachel dive into the fractures within the MAGA movement, exploring why former supporters have regrets. They critique Marjorie Taylor Greene's apology for its sincerity and discuss Epstein emails hinting at provocative claims involving Trump. Michelle Obama weighs in on America's readiness for a woman president, while Pharrell expresses his distaste for politics. Meanwhile, Eric Adams's remarks about serving in Israel raise eyebrows, prompting a lively discussion about community perception and optics.

Nov 14, 2025 • 2h 34min
Is the Shutdown Really Over? Plus, More Epstein Files Leak, and the State of the GOP With Emma Vigeland! | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Emma Vigeland, a progressive political commentator and co-host on The Majority Report, dives into the newly released Epstein files, discussing their potential impact on narratives around Trump and elite politics. She delves into the connection between Epstein and intelligence operations while exploring the dynamics of progressive disagreements. The conversation also touches on coalition-building, electoral strategies, and the challenges of addressing antisemitism. Plus, Rachel and Van rate the sincerity of public apologies, leading to some lighthearted film banter.

Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 55min
The End of the Shutdown With Representative Summer Lee. Plus, Reactions to the ‘Michael’ Trailer
Rep. Summer Lee, a progressive lawmaker from Pennsylvania, joins the conversation to dive deep into the complexities of the government shutdown and its aftermath. She discusses the critical impact of expiring healthcare subsidies on low-income Americans and advocates for systemic reforms to limit super PAC influence. The discussion also touches on the importance of diverse political messengers, the accountability of leadership, and the need to engage voters effectively. Plus, there's some lighthearted banter about the controversy surrounding James Talarico's social media habits and reactions to the new Michael Jackson biopic trailer.

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Nov 7, 2025 • 2h 15min
The New Blue Wave, a Great Value Economy, and the Act of Centering Men. Plus, Talking the World Series With Jesse Blake! | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Jesse Blake, a Canadian sports podcaster with SDPN, joins the conversation to dive into the thrill of being a Toronto Blue Jays fan. He recounts the heartbreak of pivotal game moments and how fan culture stirs rivalries, especially with LA. The talk shifts to recent elections, including Zohran Mamdani's impactful win, and its resonance in NYC. The group also explores the evolving conversation around relationships and social media pressures on public displays of affection, questioning if having a boyfriend is still seen as cool.

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Nov 4, 2025 • 2h 38min
A Broken White House, With Karine Jean-Pierre. Plus, the End of SNAP?
Karine Jean-Pierre, former White House press secretary and author, dives into her new book discussing her experiences in a broken White House and her decision to leave the Democratic Party. She shares insights about the Biden administration's successes, failures, and internal conflicts ahead of the 2024 campaign. Oluwajomiloju Adeniran joins to celebrate the Dodgers' World Series win and engage in a vital conversation about the implications of SNAP funding cuts, spotlighting the impact on working-class Americans. This dynamic dialogue blends politics with a love for sports!


