

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
The Ringer
Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay dissect the biggest topics in Black culture, politics, and sports. Two times per week, they will wade into the most important and timely conversations, frequently inviting guests on the podcast and occasionally debating each other.
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Oct 31, 2025 • 2h 20min
Black Political Power and Jesse Jackson, With Abby Phillip! Plus, Elections Galore and a Red Alert for Hip-Hop. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
This week, Abby Phillip, CNN anchor and author of 'A Dream Deferred,' joins the discussion. She delves into Jesse Jackson's vital role in the fight for Black political power and examines his impactful legacy. The conversation also highlights the challenges of multiracial unity in politics today. Furthermore, the hosts dissect the alarming absence of rap songs in the Billboard Hot 100 and explore how cultural and industry shifts are threatening hip-hop's traditional dominance. A thought-provoking dialogue filled with valuable insights!

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 58min
Fatherhood and Forgiveness With Roy Wood Jr., Plus Ed Zitron Breaks Down the “AI Bubble”
Roy Wood Jr., a comedian and correspondent for The Daily Show, shares heartfelt insights from his memoir, focusing on fatherhood and the pivotal role of mentors in shaping young lives. He discusses his journey of forgiveness and community impact, emphasizing that every child is a shared responsibility. Ed Zitron, a technology writer, analyzes the current AI boom, questioning whether it’s a transformative force or an overhyped bubble. He dives into the economics of AI, the sustainability of data centers, and the risks investors face as the tech landscape evolves.

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Oct 24, 2025 • 2h 4min
Sifting Through Emmanuel Acho’s Perspective. Plus, Logan Explains the NBA Gambling Scandal! | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Logan Murdock, a writer and podcaster from The Ringer, joins the discussion to dive into the NBA gambling scandal involving high-profile arrests and its impact on sports integrity. He explores how gambling has shifted sports fandom and heightened cynicism among fans. The conversation also tackles the intersection of masculinity and style, with Logan candidly sharing his experience painting his nails. Finally, they weigh in on the controversial backlash against Keke Palmer's new show, highlighting the nuances of representation in media.

Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 58min
The State of the Gaza Ceasefire With Akbar Ahmed. Plus, the Demands of the “No Kings” Protest and the Ghost of Social Media’s Past. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
In this engaging discussion, Akbar Ahmed, a Senior diplomatic correspondent at the Huffington Post and foreign policy expert, shares insights on the fragile ceasefire in Gaza, addressing recent violations and the humanitarian impact on millions. He delves into the motivations behind Qatar's role in negotiations and the complexities of Israeli politics. Rachel and Van also explore the provocative 'No Kings' protests and controversies surrounding social media accountability, making for a thought-provoking conversation that highlights current socio-political dynamics.

Oct 17, 2025 • 1h 50min
Breaking Down Reparations and Restorative Justice With Isaac Bryan! Plus, Threatening the Voting Act and Stephen A.’s Crockett Comments. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Isaac Bryan, a California State Assemblymember and expert on reparations, joins the hosts to delve into pressing issues surrounding reparations and restorative justice. He discusses the implications of Governor Newsom's recent vetoes and the legal challenges expected for reparations initiatives. Bryan emphasizes that reparations should focus on the descendants of chattel slavery while also addressing broader racial justice concerns. Additionally, they explore the controversy surrounding Stephen A. Smith's comments on Representative Jasmine Crockett, sparking a deeper discussion about political rhetoric.

Oct 10, 2025 • 1h 52min
Exploring the Democratic Narrative With Governor Gavin Newsom! Plus, Ryan Grim Explains the Ceasefire. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
California Governor Gavin Newsom shares insights on the Democratic Party's strategy, tackling housing affordability, and addressing systemic racism and wealth inequality. He emphasizes the need for better messaging and accountability within the party. Investigative journalist Ryan Grim follows, explaining the Gaza ceasefire framework and its implications for humanitarian relief, while also discussing the complexities of long-term political solutions. Both guests engage in pivotal discussions about current political landscapes in the U.S. and abroad.

Oct 7, 2025 • 2h 37min
Van Jones’s Very Bad Joke, Ayesha Curry’s Admission, and Diddy’s Sentencing
The hosts tackle a weekend of bizarre football moments and dissect Van Jones's controversial joke, rejecting his apology and exploring media empathy. They discuss Diddy's sentencing, examining survivor impacts and the consequences of privilege. Ayesha Curry's candid comments about motherhood and public scrutiny generate a fascinating conversation on gender roles and societal expectations. They also touch on Taylor Swift's new album and the political narratives from fellow podcasters regarding accountability.

Oct 3, 2025 • 1h 59min
Navigating the Shutdown With Rep. Maxwell Frost! Plus, the WNBA's Bad Leadership, and Ray J Vs. the Kardashians. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Rep. Maxwell Frost, the first Gen Z member of Congress, shares insights on the looming government shutdown and the urgent issues of healthcare and housing policy. He boldly tackles misconceptions about Democratic strategies and highlights the real impact of the shutdown on Americans, including SNAP and Medicare. The conversation shifts gears to critiques of WNBA leadership after controversial remarks, and the drama between Ray J and the Kardashians unfolds, exploring defamation claims. Fun discussions also include creative ideas for Bad Bunny's Super Bowl performance.

Sep 30, 2025 • 2h 7min
Karen Attiah on The Washington Post Firing, Plus Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl
Van and Rachel welcome former Washington Post opinion columnist Karen Attiah to discuss her firing from The Post after she made critical remarks about gun culture and violence in the U.S. in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing.
(0:00) Intro
(9:30) Release of redacted Epstein files
(21:29) A review of ‘107 Days’ by Kamala Harris
(48:50) Bad Bunny performing at Super Bowl
(55:33) Karen Attiah joins the show
(1:28:06) Therapy and Young Thug
(1:54:01) Looming government shutdown
Hosts: Van Lathan Jr. and Rachel Lindsay
Guests: Karen Attiah
Producer: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Ashleigh Smith
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Sep 26, 2025 • 1h 57min
Talking ‘Him,’ Biracial Identity, and Athleticism With Tyriq Withers! Plus, the Back-and-Forth With Stephen A. and Jimmy Kimmel’s Return. | Higher Learning | The Ringer
Tyriq Withers, an actor from the film 'Him,' joins the conversation to discuss his experience in the emotionally powerful sports-horror film and the physical challenges of portraying an athlete. He opens up about navigating biracial identity, his choice to embrace Black culture, and the complexities that come with white-passing privilege. The discussion also touches on audience reactions to the film, the artistic process, and why provoking meaningful conversation is more important than universal acclaim.


