Pogus Caesar is a national treasure.

His many projects as a photographer, director, artist, and archivist transcend language and defy perfectionism in the way great art should.

The sheer humanity and honesty in his images spoke to me, and I needed to hear his story.

Those iconic images from the 1985 Handsworth riots fired me up through my love of activism through artistic expression. His images of cross-cultural friendships are profound, and we discuss his early experiences of moving from St Kitts to Birmingham in 1953, and his early cultural affections.

Pogus is candid in his vulnerability as a creator, sharing stories of observing people commenting on his work in galleries, and how the best we can do is offer a little piece of ourselves.

As ever, supported by the show's founding sponsor Illustration X https://illustrationx.com

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Ep 256: Pogus Caesar. The creativity behind the camera!