The Trajectory Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2)
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Aug 29, 2025 
Jeremie and Edouard Harris, co-founders of Gladstone AI and experts in AGI implications for the US government, dive into the complex landscape of US-China relations in artificial intelligence. They discuss the dangers of trusting China with AGI, the ongoing espionage threats in Western labs, and the necessity of tamper-proof technology. The conversation emphasizes strategic collaboration to slow China’s AI progress while ensuring transparency and security, highlighting the importance of international cooperation amidst rising tensions.
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Don't Rely On China For AGI Trust
- Jeremie and Edouard argue trusting China on high-stakes AGI cooperation is naive given observed strategic behavior.
- They recommend treating China as a potential adversary for planning purposes rather than a reliable partner.
CERN-For-AI Becomes An Intelligence Target
- A centralized CERN-for-AI would be a perfect espionage target and likely leak significant capabilities.
- FlexHeg-style hardware verification may help, but it's unlikely to be ready in time to prevent leaks.
Limit Compute Proliferation Now
- Pursue GPU nonproliferation and allied export controls to limit adversary cluster-scale compute.
- Combine that with tamper-proof chips and location tracking to enable trust-but-verify regimes.
