Unbelievable? Does God Exist? Shaun Stevenson vs Nathan Elvidge hosted by Andy Kind
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Oct 2, 2025 
In a thought-provoking discussion, philosopher Shaun Stevenson debates with Oxford doctoral candidate Nathan Elvidge on the existence of God and morality. Stevenson shares his journey from faith to atheism, claiming that belief in God is a human invention. Elvidge counters with arguments for divine grounding of morality, asserting that moral absolutes need a lawgiver. The conversation dives into complex issues like the problem of evil, the nature of justice, and whether concepts like good and evil are subjective without God. A captivating clash of ideas!
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God As A Human-Made Explanation
- Shaun Stevenson argues the idea of God is a human creation used to explain our place in the world.
- He says removing God forces humans to take moral responsibility for consequences and meaning.
Moral Absolutes Require Explanation
- Nathan Elvidge contends some moral truths are objective and can't be explained without God.
- He highlights moral absolutes like murder and child abuse as intrinsically wrong regardless of consensus.
Consequences As Moral Grounds
- Shaun defends secular grounding of morality via observable consequences and social cohesion.
- He argues harms and social effects are sufficient to identify moral wrongs without a divine lawgiver.
