BiggerPockets Money Podcast

If No One Follows the 4% Rule, What IS the Right Withdrawal Rate?

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May 23, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Karsten Jeske, aka "Big Ern," an early retiree and expert on safe withdrawal rates, challenges the widely accepted 4% rule for retirement. He shares insights on why even he doesn't follow it, suggesting a more comfortable withdrawal rate for early retirees. Karsten emphasizes the need for adaptability in withdrawal strategies amidst today's volatile markets, discusses diversifying portfolios with cash-flowing assets, and presents differing views on whether to pay off mortgages or invest. Essential advice for aspiring FIRE followers!
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INSIGHT

4% Rule Applies to 30 Years

  • The classic 4% safe withdrawal rate mainly applies to a 30-year retirement horizon.
  • Early retirees retiring for 40-50 years need a lower withdrawal rate to reduce failure risk.
INSIGHT

Sequence of Returns Risk Matters

  • Sequence of returns risk can cause failure even with lower withdrawal rates like 3.3%.
  • Early poor market performance harms long-term portfolio sustainability more than average returns suggest.
ADVICE

Factor Side Income Into Plans

  • Personalize your safe withdrawal rate by factoring in additional income streams like side gigs or Social Security.
  • Consider whether income reliance affects your retirement enjoyment or stress, especially during recessions.
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