This conversation sparked a lot of good conversation, deep questions, and insights that even I didn’t see coming until we were discussing them, so I knew my interview on The Kelli Show needed a permanent place on the Becoming Iconic podcast. That’s why episode 153 of Becoming Iconic is about my interview on The Kelli Show! 

Kelli and I cover some of the following topics: 

• Where “iconic” and “icon” came from for me, and how my podcast has shaped me into the entrepreneur I am today. I also discuss in this segment how much the word “iconic” scared me, and how I came to a clearer picture of the word, the meaning, and myself.
• How I have been able to redefine what working hard and success look like for me, and not just what I was taught. 
• The various ways I was addicted to external validation, and how I both overcame it and worked through it through breath work, accepting responsibility, learning discernment, and other methods.
• My stance on selling to pain points, and why I cringe every time I see those manipulative posts and marketing pages.

I really want to stand in the leadership space and help others to scale their business from a solid leadership space. This interview was exactly what I needed to have a lot of self-reflection and I know it will bring you a lot of self-reflection too. So be sure to tune in to all the episodes to receive tons of practical tips on all things business, style, relationships and family. 

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