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Recode Decode: Ben Hubbard

Mar 23, 2020
Ben Hubbard, Beirut bureau chief for The New York Times and author of "MBS: The Rise to Power of Mohammed bin Salman," dives into the controversial reign of Saudi Arabia's crown prince. He discusses MBS's unexpected ascendancy, the chilling aftermath of Jamal Khashoggi's murder, and the use of technology in controlling dissent. Hubbard also explores the dynamics of U.S.-Saudi relations under Trump, the implications of ambitious projects like NEOM, and the ongoing challenges of reforming a tightly controlled regime.
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ANECDOTE

Book's Focus Shift

  • Ben Hubbard's initial book idea was less controversial, focusing on Saudi society.
  • It shifted to MBS due to his unexpected rise and controversial actions.
INSIGHT

MBS's Unique Upbringing

  • MBS is unique among Saudi princes, being Saudi-born and raised, unlike many who study abroad.
  • This upbringing provided him with a deeper understanding of Saudi society.
INSIGHT

MBS's Rise to Power

  • MBS's father, Salman, chose him despite having other accomplished sons.
  • MBS's deep understanding of Saudi society came from shadowing his father, Riyadh's governor.
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