This episode has a big focus on mental health.



Ryan and I didn't even know each other before recording this. I've started to notice more and more authors and podcast hosts following my stories on Instagram and every so often I do a little research on the people to see what they're about. 



During a month full of people in my life going through a lot of things revolving around mental health I stumbled across Ryan Jones who once stood on the ledge of a building - ready to leave everything. 



I looked into his posts, checked his website, looked at previews of his book, he seemed legit. There is so much fake in the internet it was like right place right time.  



Ryan talks about who he admires in his life, who he owes a lot of gratitude to, and the importance of having a community or a group and communicating with the people in it. He talks about how journaling turned into book writing. We talk about dad jokes and how to stay motivated amidst constant rejection while battling depression. 



He's doing a lot of really cool things now, when it could have gone totally different. I am really grateful that I had the opportunity to connect with Ryan today. 



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