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ON BABY LOSS… With Sara Pascoe and Trinny Woodall

Oct 12, 2025
Sara Pascoe, a comedian and writer, shares her emotional journey through miscarriage and IVF, revealing how these experiences shaped her perspective on motherhood. She candidly addresses the anxiety of unexplained infertility and the bittersweet relief of pregnancy followed by loss. Joining her, entrepreneur Trinny Woodall recounts her tenacity through multiple IVF cycles and unexpected challenges during her pregnancy. Both guests highlight the profound impact of loss on their parenting experiences, offering hope and connection for anyone facing similar struggles.
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ANECDOTE

Choosing Not To Investigate Fertility

  • Sara Pascoe avoided fertility investigations for years and left outcomes to fate.
  • That decision tied her sense of self-worth to unexplained infertility and felt like a personal failure.
INSIGHT

How Unexplained Fertility Creates Magical Thinking

  • Unexplained fertility creates pervasive uncertainty that fuels magical thinking and self-blame.
  • Storytellers and women often fill the unknown with harsh, self-critical narratives.
ANECDOTE

IVF, Delay And The Thief Of Joy

  • Sara Pascoe started IVF at 38 after a miscarriage and COVID delays disrupted NHS treatment.
  • Her successful pregnancy still brought constant fear and repeated pregnancy testing rather than joy.
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