CW: in this episode Audrey and Kevin talk a little about their relationship with working out, fitness, and body shame stuff. So just listen and take care of yourself. (It's not a long part of the convo, so you can skip forward a few minutes to be past it.)

Audrey Assad joins me to talk about faith transitions, plant medicine, healing the body, and so much more.

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