Death, Sex & Money

The Patient and Cunning Work of Defending LGBTQ Rights with a Republican Supermajority

Apr 29, 2025
Andrew Schneider, Executive Director of Fairness West Virginia, dedicates his career to advocating for LGBTQ rights in a deeply conservative climate. He discusses his unique strategy of building relationships with Republican lawmakers, emphasizing listening over confrontation. Former state senator Mitch Carmichael reflects on the challenges of advancing such rights in a supermajority and the importance of personal stories in fostering understanding. The conversation delves into the complexities of navigating hostility while striving for advocacy and inclusivity.
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ANECDOTE

Small Town Acts for LGBTQ Rights

  • Mayor Betsy Orndoff Sayers of Wardensville acted after a local LGBTQ assault and found few state protections.
  • Wardensville passed a local ordinance for LGBTQ rights, despite strong Trump support locally.
ANECDOTE

Senator Carmichael's Moral Speech

  • Andrew Schneider persuaded Republican Senator Mitch Carmichael to speak against a discriminatory religious freedom bill.
  • Carmichael's personal and heartfelt speech helped defeat the anti-LGBTQ bill in 2016.
INSIGHT

Listening Builds Trust First

  • Andrew Schneider learned effective advocacy meant listening fully before persuading.
  • Building trust first enables meaningful conversations that can change minds.
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