Excess Returns

Recession Indicators Are Breaking. Inflation Isn’t | Megan Horneman on What Comes Next

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Jun 19, 2025
Megan Horneman, Chief Investment Officer at Verdence Capital Advisors, dives into her 'Year of Fragile Optimism' thesis, highlighting the risks of hidden inflation and consumer debt. She discusses why the strength in consumer spending might be misleading and critiques traditional recession indicators that are breaking down. Megan emphasizes the potential of small/mid-caps and international stocks, the importance of active management, and offers insights into the risks and opportunities in the current fixed income landscape. Her macro perspective is invaluable for navigating today’s markets.
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INSIGHT

Consumer Financial Stress Revealed

  • Consumers are stretched thin, with record-high credit card debt showing financial strain.
  • Rising delinquencies and minimum payments indicate growing consumer pain from past inflation.
INSIGHT

Inflation Persistence Warned

  • Inflation pressures persist despite apparent improvements, especially in service and manufacturing sectors.
  • We must be cautious of complacency around inflation; it is not fully behind us yet.
ADVICE

Long-Term Diversification Strategy

  • Focus on long-term investment goals and maintain a well-diversified portfolio across asset classes.
  • Take advantage of volatility by investing in areas with depressed valuations like small and mid-caps.
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