A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar When Seeking Jesus Drives You Out of the Church: Interview with Scot McKnight & Tommy Preson Phillips
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Feb 1, 2025 Scot McKnight, a New Testament scholar and author, joins newcomer Tommy Preson Phillips, a pastor, to discuss their book 'Invisible Jesus.' They dive into faith deconstruction, positioning it as a necessary exploration rather than a failure. Highlighting issues like power abuse and rigid beliefs, they advocate for a faith that feels genuine. Their conversation tackles how many Christians are seeking a deeper connection to Jesus outside traditional institutions, raising crucial questions about the future of the church and the need for inclusivity and meaningful faith conversations.
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Accidental Pastor
- Tommy Preson Phillips became pastor of Watermark Church accidentally after the previous pastor left and elders resigned.
- The church, initially around 1000 members, dwindled to under 200 after COVID, leading to restructuring and a focus on house churches.
Deconstruction as Prophetic Voice
- Many deconstructing Christians aren't leaving Christianity entirely; 86% remain in church.
- Their deconstruction is often a prophetic voice, highlighting issues the church needs to address.
Invisible Jesus
- Deconstructors often critique the church's focus on abstract spirituality, neglecting Jesus's emphasis on physical needs like feeding the hungry.
- They see a disconnect between Jesus's actions and the church's priorities.
