Catalyst with Shayle Kann

Can AI revolutionize materials discovery?

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Sep 19, 2024
Ekin Dogus Cubuk, a research scientist at Google DeepMind, specializes in AI applications for materials discovery. He discusses the complexities of using AI in finding new materials for climate tech, highlighting that current methods still require substantial lab work and larger datasets. The conversation also explores how AI might enhance the understanding of material properties like optical and electric qualities, and the challenges faced due to inconsistent data. Dogus emphasizes the need for quality experimental data to make AI truly impactful in this field.
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ANECDOTE

Accidental Discoveries

  • Early materials discoveries were often serendipitous, like tungsten's increased ductility after accidental mercury exposure.
  • Similarly, lithium-ion batteries were discovered while researching superconductors at Exxon.
ANECDOTE

Bardeen's Transistor

  • Bardeen's transistor development involved trial and error with various materials, highlighting the role of experimentation.
  • Despite his expertise, he had to experiment to find what worked.
INSIGHT

Optimization vs. Discovery

  • Optimizing existing materials is easier than discovering new ones, leading to incremental improvements.
  • This explains why many current technologies use relatively simple, long-known materials like silicon.
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