

198 - The Trans Inclusion Controversy That Took Over La Leche League with Helen Joyce & Marian Tompson
Dec 20, 2024
In this discussion, Helen Joyce, a journalist and feminist campaigner, interviews Marian Tompson, co-founder of La Leche League, who resigned over the organization's shifting focus. They explore breastfeeding's physiological aspects and the historical struggles women faced. The conversation delves into the challenges of incorporating transgender individuals into female-centered spaces, raising crucial questions about safety, societal perceptions, and the emotional toll of these changes on traditional motherhood and community dynamics.
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Intro
00:00 • 5min
Reflections on Legacy and Inclusion in La Leche League
05:03 • 3min
Exploring the Intricacies of Breastfeeding and Maternal Identity
08:17 • 6min
Breastfeeding, Gender Identity, and Societal Norms
14:16 • 5min
The Enduring Struggle and Significance of Breastfeeding
19:26 • 2min
Navigating Gender Identity and Breastfeeding: A Controversial Shift
21:56 • 2min
A Journey Through Breastfeeding Challenges in the 1950s
24:21 • 3min
The Birth of La Leche League: A Support System for Breastfeeding Mothers
26:57 • 3min
Grassroots Beginnings of a Breastfeeding Movement
29:56 • 6min
The Nuances of Breastfeeding and Societal Pressures
36:18 • 6min
Revolutionizing Motherhood: From Breastfeeding to Inclusivity
42:19 • 6min
Navigating Breastfeeding and Safety in a Trans-Inclusive Environment
48:04 • 3min
Navigating Gender and Breastfeeding in Women’s Spaces
51:14 • 3min
Navigating Tensions of Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
54:15 • 9min
Family Bonds and the Quest for Support
01:03:26 • 3min
Reflections on Parenting and Gender Roles
01:06:31 • 6min
The Courage to Be Authentic: Navigating Beliefs in a Critical World
01:12:20 • 53sec
Exploring Authenticity in Gender Identity
01:13:13 • 49sec
Celebrating Connection and Family
01:14:02 • 12sec
Heartfelt Farewell and Community Appreciation
01:14:13 • 8sec
Exploring Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:21 • 5sec
Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion in Motherhood
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:26 • 5sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
01:14:31 • 1sec
Navigating the Trans Inclusion Debate in La Leche League
01:14:32 • 3sec
Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion in Parenting Communities
01:14:35 • 3sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion and Women's Rights
01:14:38 • 3sec
Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Exploring Gender Identity and Women's Advocacy
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Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion Debate in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Debating Trans Inclusion in Parenting Communities
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Controversies in Trans Inclusion and Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Debating Inclusivity: Trans Perspectives in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Gender Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Gender Identity in Breastfeeding Advocacy
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Exploring Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Trans Inclusion Debate in Parenting Communities
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Exploring Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Exploring the Trans Inclusion Debate in Parenting Support
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Exploring Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Transgender Inclusion in La Leche League
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The Intersection of Motherhood and Gender Politics
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in Mothering Spaces
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Controversies of Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League: A Controversial Discourse
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Controversial Debate
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Controversies of Trans Inclusion in Parenting Support
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Controversial Dialogue
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Gender Identity Debate in Maternal Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League: A Complex Debate
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Controversies of Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Debating Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Exploring Trans Inclusion in Maternal Support Organizations
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in Women's Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in Women's Advocacy
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Transgender Inclusion and Its Challenges in Breastfeeding Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Inclusion and Identity in Women's Support Groups
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League: A Controversial Debate
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Complex Debate
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Trans Inclusion Controversy in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and Controversy in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Controversy of Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
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Navigating the Inclusion Controversy in Women’s Spaces
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Controversial Debate
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: Navigating Controversy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Trans Inclusion in Women's Organizations
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in Maternal Health
01:14:41 • 0sec
Controversies of Trans Inclusion at La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Transgender Inclusion in Traditional Organizations
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Emotional Landscape of Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in Maternal Support Organizations
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League: A Controversial Dialogue
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Debate on Trans Inclusion within Women's Organizations
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Controversy of Gender Inclusion in Women's Organizations
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion Debate in Lactation Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Gender Inclusivity in Parenting Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Controversy of Gender Inclusion in Maternal Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Gender Identity and Breastfeeding Support
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Inclusivity in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion in Parenting
01:14:41 • 0sec
Debating Trans Inclusion in Maternal Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and the La Leche League Controversy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Controversies of Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion within Parenting Communities
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Trans Inclusion and Community Dynamics in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion and Women's Rights in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in Maternal Support
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
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Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Support
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating the Trans Inclusion Debate in Maternal Support Groups
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Controversy of Trans Inclusion
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
The Intersection of Trans Inclusion and Motherhood
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Gender Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Controversial Dialogue
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Controversial Debate
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Gender, Identity, and Controversy in Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Controversies of Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Debate on Trans Inclusion in Women's Groups
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and Its Controversies
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating the Trans Inclusion Debate in Maternal Health
01:14:41 • 0sec
Examining Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion Controversies in La Leche League
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Controversies of Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and Breastfeeding Advocacy
01:14:41 • 0sec
Exploring the Trans Inclusion Debate Within Women’s Spaces
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Community Debate
01:14:41 • 0sec
Controversial Perspectives on Gender Inclusion in Activism
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Controversies of Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
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Navigating Trans Inclusion in Maternal Support
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Controversies of Inclusion in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Trans Inclusion and Breastfeeding: A Complex Dialogue
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League
01:14:41 • 0sec
Navigating Gender Inclusion in La Leche League
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The Debate Over Trans Inclusion in Breastfeeding Advocacy
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Trans Inclusion and the La Leche League Debate
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Navigating Trans Inclusion: Controversies and Perspectives
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League: A Complex Dialogue
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Complex Debate
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion Controversy in La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League: A Controversial Debate
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Trans Inclusion in La Leche League: A Complex Debate
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Trans Inclusion and La Leche League
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Trans Inclusion in Women's Health
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