

In Iowa, Two Friends Debate DeSantis vs. Trump
21 snips Jan 12, 2024
Shane Goldmacher, a national political reporter for The New York Times, joins Iowa farmer Lance Lillbridge, a DeSantis supporter, to dissect the Republican primary landscape. They explore DeSantis' uphill battle against Trump in Iowa, emphasizing grassroots engagement. Personal anecdotes reveal the emotional toll of political debates among friends. With polling dynamics shifting, the conversation highlights Trump's current lead and the complexities of voter loyalty. They also touch on the broader implications for the GOP as the Iowa caucus approaches.
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DeSantis’ Personal Touch
- Lance Lillibridge, an Iowa farmer, initially supported Trump but switched to DeSantis.
- DeSantis personally called Lillibridge after a motorcycle accident, demonstrating care.
Challenging Perceptions
- DeSantis' personal touch resonated with Lillibridge, changing his perception of the candidate.
- Lillibridge now views media portrayals of DeSantis as cold and disconnected as inaccurate.
Unsuccessful Conversion
- Lance, a DeSantis supporter, tried converting his Trump-supporting friend, Nate.
- Despite Lance's efforts, Nate remained committed to Trump, highlighting the challenge DeSantis faces.