

A MAGA House Divided (with Kara Swisher, Heather Cox Richardson & Astead Herndon)
14 snips Jan 23, 2025
Kara Swisher, a renowned tech journalist, talks alongside historian Heather Cox Richardson and NYT politics reporter Astead Herndon about the tumultuous landscape following Trump's return to power. They tackle the rifts within the MAGA party and the shifting dynamics of wealth and populism. Insights into the Democratic Party's potential revival and strategies to engage younger and diverse voters emerge. The trio also reflects on the dangers of political normalization and the importance of authentic communication in driving change.
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Refusal to Normalize
- Kara Swisher refuses to normalize Trump's actions like pardoning criminals or separating families.
- She believes that these actions are beyond the pale and shouldn't be accepted as the price of bipartisanship.
Resignation vs. Resistance
- There's less visible protest against Trump's second term compared to his first.
- Democrats seem more resigned, channeling their energy into media and online spaces rather than street protests.
Historical Precedent
- Grover Cleveland is the only other president to serve two non-consecutive terms.
- His focus was reforming robber barons, unlike Trump's focus.