How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price - Ep. 667
Jul 2, 2024
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Crypto experts Jose Macedo and Ari Paul discuss the impact of upcoming token unlocks on the market, the ratio of unrealized gains to market cap, and manipulation of reported circulating supply by token projects. They explore the challenges faced by retail investors, the discrepancy between token trading prices and actual value, and propose innovative token launch strategies to balance short-term gains with long-term success.
Understanding unrealized gains helps assess token value accurately.
Implementing simple time-based vesting schedules can prevent manipulation of unlock conditions.
Balancing financialization and product-market fit minimizes speculative risks in crypto projects.
Deep dives
Balancing Unrealized Gains and Market Cap
Lowering unrealized gains by raising less money and avoiding overfunded rounds could address the high unrealized gains to market cap ratio. Projects could also increase float through initial coin offerings (ICOs) to distribute tokens at a fair valuation and involve early retail investors in the project's success.
Simple Time-Based Vesting
Maintaining simple time-based vesting schedules for tokens can aid in avoiding manipulation and gaming of unlock conditions. Time-based unlocks provide clear assessment points for investors to evaluate success and align incentives for long-term project sustainability.
Avoiding Overcomplication in Metrics
While introducing new variables like liquidity-adjusted vesting can be beneficial, overcomplicating unlock conditions with easily gameable metrics may lead to unintended consequences. Keeping experiments bite-sized and manageable could reduce risks and ensure survivable mistakes.
Addressing Hyper Financialization
The challenges in token distribution and liquidity stem from hyper financialization in early-stage projects, creating dependencies on rent-seeking middlemen and early liquidity. Balancing financialization with product-market fit and usage metrics could help navigate the complexities of the industry and its speculative tendencies.
Impact of Financialization on Cryptocurrency Projects
Financialization in cryptocurrency projects leads to a shift of value towards rent-seeking intermediaries like VCs and market makers. The practice of vesting and unlocks can create opportunities for market manipulation and value transfer to intermediaries. Embracing hyper-financialization may involve eliminating unlocks entirely to prevent rent-seeking behavior and focus on fundamental value creation.
Challenges and Strategies for Resolving Token Unlock Issues
The upcoming challenges for existing projects with looming token unlocks pose concerns about maintaining market cap value. VCs facing liquidity issues from early investments may need to navigate the market carefully. Strategies like encouraging secondaries, implementing longer-vesting periods, and focusing on building substantial products could help address the adverse effects of massive token unlocks in the cryptocurrency space.
The problem of low float, high fully diluted valuation (FDV) coins is one that is frequently discussed in crypto. But there’s another wrinkle: investors need to understand the unrealized gains of these coins to really understand the price.
In this episode, Jose Macedo of Delphi Digital and Ari Paul of Blocktower Capital explain the various metrics that reveal what a coin is really worth, why a wave of token unlocks that will be hitting the crypto markets in the next few years are not bullish, and whether there is a better way to design token unlocks for teams and insiders.
Plus, they cover whether venture capitalists are extractive to crypto, whether these games with circulating supply and FDV have caused investors to turn to memecoins, and why they believe the ICO era was better for retail investors.
Show highlights:
00:00 Intro
01:58 Why upcoming token unlocks are creating market jitters
10:22 How the ratio of unrealized gains to market cap influences token price movements
12:22 How some token projects manipulate their reported circulating supply
20:24 Whether and how everyday investors can uncover the truth about token projects
23:37 What secondary market trading says about the potential impact of upcoming token unlocks
34:50 Why Jose believes that the current token launch strategy, despite its flaws, is still favored by insiders and unlikely to change soon
41:02 Why some projects favor decisions that are more likely to result in short-term gains over long-term success
46:36 Why Jose believes that simple time-based token unlocks often work better than complex metrics, and how projects can balance funding with realistic success metrics
53:04 Why Ari believes the SEC's investigations into VCs for acting as securities dealers might be justified, and how these practices resemble pump-and-dump schemes
59:11 With numerous token unlocks looming, why the outlook is bearish for many projects, and what challenges they face in mitigating potential sell-offs
1:05:52 Why many crypto investors might end up holding the bag in the current cycle, despite plans to sell early and avoid losses
1:12:27 What the future role of VCs is in crypto, and how the influx of token unlocks and the rise of memecoins could shape the bull cycle
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