
Unchained
Crypto assets and blockchain technology are about to transform every trust-based interaction of our lives, from financial services to identity to the Internet of Things. In this podcast, host Laura Shin, an independent journalist covering all things crypto, talks with industry pioneers about how crypto assets and blockchains will change the way we earn, spend and invest our money. Tune in to find out how Web 3.0, the decentralized web, will revolutionize our world. Disclosure: I'm a nocoiner.
Latest episodes

Jun 18, 2025 • 1h 9min
Bits + Bips: Why Tron’s IPO Matters & How Crypto Exchanges Will Win - Ep. 853
In this week’s episode of Bits + Bips, the panel digs into why Tron’s rumored IPO is more than a headline, what Wall Street’s quiet shift into stablecoins signals, and how exchanges are racing to control token flow, even as regulation hangs in the balance.
They also explore:
What the Israel–Iran conflict means for global markets, oil prices, and crypto positioning
Whether banks can adopt stablecoins without threatening their own deposits
If regulatory clarity will come fast enough to shape the next crypto phase
How to tell if ETH’s revival has staying power
Sponsors:
Bitwise
Hosts:
Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida
Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained
Guests:
Christopher Perkins, President of CoinFund
Vishal Gupta, Cofounder and CEO of True Markets.
Links
Tron and Justin Sun
FT: Crypto group Tron to go public after US pauses probe into billionaire founder
Unchained: Eric Trump Claims No Public Involvement in Tron’s Nasdaq Entity
The Guardian: Crypto entrepreneur eats banana art he bought for $6.2m
Israel - Iran
WSJ:
Israel Takes Control of Iran’s Skies—a Feat That Still Eludes Russia in Ukraine
How Israel’s Mossad Smuggled Drone Parts to Attack Iran From Within
Stablecoins and TradFi
Unchained:
JPMorgan Files ‘JPMD’ Trademark, Hints at Bigger Crypto Offering
Coinbase and Amex Team Up on Bitcoin Card as Exchange Reveals Broad Expansion Plans
Bloomberg: Bessent Says $2 Trillion Reasonable for Dollar Stablecoin Market.
WSJ: Walmart and Amazon are considering launching U.S. dollar-pegged stablecoins
Reuters: French Societe Generale became the first major bank to launch a dollar-pegged stablecoin
The Information: Financial markets giant DTCC is exploring a stablecoin, according to The Information
Regulation
Unchained: White House Rejects Ban on Conflicts of Interest in Crypto’s CLARITY Act
Timestamps:
🎬 0:00 Intro
📰 4:18 Why Tron’s potential IPO creates a dilemma for investors, and how Justin Sun’s Trump ties play into it
🛡️ 15:58 Should exchanges like Coinbase let investors trade whatever they want?
🏦 20:47 The reason why crypto treasury companies even exist
📊 25:59 What is driving the fierce competition among exchanges
💵 34:18 Can JPMorgan, Bank of America, and other TradFi giants succeed with stablecoins?
🤔 37:58 Will stablecoins cannibalize banks’ own deposit bases?
🌍 45:51 How the Iran–Israel conflict could shake macro markets and crypto sentiment
🚀 55:37 Why Ram and Chris are calling for an ETH breakout
📜 57:47 What are the risks if crypto regulation fails?
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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 21min
Arthur Hayes and Hanson Birringer on Hyperliquid’s Success (And What Could Stop It) - Ep. 852
Arthur Hayes, CIO of Maelstrom and a crypto trading legend, joins Hanson Birringer, Head of US Sales at Flowdesk, to discuss the rise of Hyperliquid—a decentralized perpetual exchange that has gained a loyal user base without VCs. They delve into its user-first strategy, the challenges posed by competition from big players like Coinbase, and the implications of transparency in trading. The conversation also touches on a controversial saga involving James Wynn and innovative proposals critical for Hyperliquid's future in a rapidly evolving landscape.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 48min
A Soon-to-Be $2 Trillion Stablecoin Market? Stripe, Shopify and Banks Want In - Ep. 851
Vicky Fu, co-founder at Yala and former engineering director at Circle, sheds light on the booming stablecoin market. She reveals how Circle was undervalued before its successful IPO and dives into Stripe's strategic moves in crypto, hinting at broader market implications. Fu argues that retail payments could be the breakout use case for stablecoins. She explains how Circle's network effects give it a competitive edge as banks enter the space, setting the stage for a possible $2 trillion market.

Jun 12, 2025 • 56min
The Rise of Public Crypto, ICOs Make a Comeback, and Coinbase Wins Again – The Chopping Block - Ep. 850
Welcome to The Chopping Block – where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, we’re joined by a special guest: Laura Shin, host of Unchained! The crew unpacks Circle’s explosive IPO, Tether’s threat to exit the U.S., and the meme-stock logic powering the rise of “crypto treasury companies.” From Coinbase’s grip on USDC to Wall Street’s sudden enthusiasm for stablecoins, we explore how public markets are reshaping crypto’s power centers. Is Circle overvalued—or the last compliant winner left? And are ICOs really back? We debate whether crypto’s just maturing—or if it’s being hijacked by the suits.
Show highlights
🔹 Circle’s IPO Shocks Wall Street – One of the biggest two-day pops in IPO history: Did bankers misprice, or did crypto just break TradFi?
🔹 Stablecoin Season or Meme Stock Mania? – Circle hits 160x earnings, 15x revenue—Tarun calls it “CoreWeave for finance”
🔹 Tether Threatens U.S. Exit – New regulation looms: Will Circle rule America while Tether dominates abroad?
🔹 The Coinbase Cut – Why Coinbase might be the real winner behind USDC—and the hidden economics of stablecoin margins
🔹 Banking Consortium Incoming? – JPMorgan and Wells reportedly plotting their own stablecoin play. Is Circle racing against the banks?
🔹 The Rise of Treasury Tokens – From MicroStrategy to Solana clones: Are “crypto holding companies” the new ETF?
🔹 Copycats or Cult Leaders? – Why everyone wants to be Saylor—and why most won’t survive
🔹 Are These Companies Just Meme Stocks? – Laura and Tarun debate whether tradable crypto firms have real value—or just vibes
🔹 The Return of the ICO – Plasma raises $500M on Sonar, sparking a new wave of pre-token speculation
🔹 Is This Financial Innovation or Regulatory Theater? – Haseeb asks: Are we maturing—or just dressing TradFi in crypto clothes?
⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly
⭐️Robert Leshner, CEO & Co-founder of Superstate
⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures
⭐️Laura Shin, Journalist, Author of ‘The Cryptopians,’ Founder and CEO of Unchained
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
01:25 Circle's IPO: A Historic Event
03:16 Market Reactions & Implications
06:49 Stablecoin Legislation & Tether's Response
08:56 Circle's Market Position & Future
23:12 Crypto Treasury Companies: The New Trend
32:09 Understanding Convertible Arbitrage in Crypto
37:02 Potential Risks and Market Dynamics
41:36 The Influence of Michael Saylor
43:57 The Need for Charismatic Leaders in Crypto
50:07 The Rise of ICOs and Market Trends
55:04 Concluding Thoughts on ICOs
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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 8min
Bits + Bips: Elon vs. Trump, Bitcoin Supply Shock Brewing, Circle’s Wild Valuation - Ep. 849
This week, Ram Ahluwalia, CEO of Lumida, and Sal Ternullo from A100x Ventures dive into the buzzing world of crypto. They examine Circle's hefty IPO valuation and its implications for the stablecoin landscape amid market turmoil. The duo also discusses the intriguing dynamics of crypto exchanges like Gemini and the ongoing feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump. With a potential Bitcoin supply shock on the horizon, they highlight key strategies for navigating these turbulent waters in digital assets.

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Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 10min
Jeff Park on Why Owning 1 Bitcoin Is Young People's American Dream - Ep. 848
Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise, discusses the transformative future of finance, emphasizing that owning Bitcoin may become the new American dream. He shares personal stories that inform his radical portfolio strategy and highlights why younger generations are turning to crypto as an alternative to traditional investments. Park also addresses the U.S.'s advantages in leveraging stablecoins for global dominance and spotlights Japan’s pivotal role in the financial transition, suggesting we might already be 'living in a Bitcoin-only world.'

Jun 6, 2025 • 57min
Pump.fun’s $1 Billion ICO Has Caused Controversy. Can It Succeed? - Ep. 847
Ryan Watkins, Co-founder of Syncracy Capital and crypto asset specialist, dives into the fiery debate surrounding Pump.fun's $1 billion ICO at a $4 billion valuation. He explores the skepticism about whether Pump truly needs this massive funding and what it would accomplish. Watkins highlights the community's anger despite Pump's revenue growth and discusses the implications for Solana. Additionally, he questions the logic behind the airdrop decision and the validity of the valuation amid a challenging meme coin market.

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Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 3min
James Wynn’s Fall, Ethereum’s Rise, and the Death of the Foundation Era – The Chopping Block - Ep. 846
Dive into the wild world of crypto as the hosts unravel James Wynn’s jaw-dropping crash from $1 billion to mere cents, sparking debates on market manipulation and trading ethics. They discuss Ethereum's controversial rebranding to 'Protocol,' questioning whether hierarchy is a necessary evil. Tensions rise as they dissect the future of crypto foundations, pondering radical transparency's role in the decentralized landscape. Can Ethereum evolve beyond its so-called 'vibes' era? And who's truly steering the crypto ship?

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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 21min
Bits + Bips: How Bitcoin Treasuries Are and Aren't Like the SPAC Bubble - Ep. 845
The Bitcoin Conference in Vegas is stirring political interests, with crypto treasury companies on the rise globally. Experts discuss the potential bubble forming around Bitcoin treasuries and the SEC's pushback against staking in ETFs. Ethereum might be closing the gap too! Geopolitical tensions, like the U.S.-China relations, influence financial markets, while AI's rapid growth prompts debates about job displacement and opportunities. And of course, one panelist shares his disdain for the flashy Vegas scene!

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Jun 3, 2025 • 1h 24min
Jeff Park Says the 60/40 Portfolio May Be Dead. Here’s His Radical Fix - Ep. 844
Jeff Park, Head of Alpha Strategies at Bitwise, argues that the traditional 60/40 portfolio is outdated and proposes a revolutionary approach to investing. He discusses the rise of 'resistance' assets like Bitcoin and how they impact trust in institutions. Jeff emphasizes the value of Bitcoin as a key anchor asset in today’s financial landscape. He also touches on the relevance of time as a concept in investment, highlighting how Bitcoin captures liquid energy, ultimately urging a radical rethink of modern portfolio strategies.