Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay MAGA Regrets, Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Apology, and Pharrell’s Philosophy
Nov 18, 2025
Van and Rachel dive into the fractures within the MAGA movement, exploring why former supporters have regrets. They critique Marjorie Taylor Greene's apology for its sincerity and discuss Epstein emails hinting at provocative claims involving Trump. Michelle Obama weighs in on America's readiness for a woman president, while Pharrell expresses his distaste for politics. Meanwhile, Eric Adams's remarks about serving in Israel raise eyebrows, prompting a lively discussion about community perception and optics.
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Why Black Pop Stars Face Extra Scrutiny
- Hosts debate whether black pop women face community or industry constraints when expressing sexuality and controversy.
- Van Lathan argues black audiences police pop stars differently, while Rachel Lindsay blames industry and white gatekeepers.
Defectors Can Be Politically Useful
- Defecting MAGA members can be politically valuable if courted and deprogrammed rather than shunned.
- Van Lathan compares treating defectors to Cold War defections: accept, vet, then use their expertise to dismantle the movement.
Court Defectors With A Structured Path
- Accepting sincere defectors requires careful vetting and deliberate engagement, not immediate trust.
- Senator Brian Schatz suggests building welcoming paths for defectors to integrate and be useful politically.
