
Robert Wright's Nonzero The Past and Future of Digital Media (Robert Wright & Mike Pesca)
Jan 15, 2026
Dive into the origins of podcasting with insights from pioneers in the field. Explore the impact of AI on content creation, including humanless podcasts and how algorithms influence audience behavior. The discussion transitions to the evolution of sports, tackling issues like new betting risks and changes in rules. The duo also examines the challenges of maintaining a non-tribal brand in a polarized media landscape, along with the future of news models in our decentralized world.
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Conversation Beats High-Production Audio
- Podcasting evolved from high-production NPR-style audio to conversational, low-cost formats dominated by people talking.
- Two or three hosts discussing topics proved scalable and reshaped the medium away from costly documentaries.
AI Replaces Filling-In Content Not Star Hosts
- AI can generate passable, humanlike podcast hosts and summaries of documents.
- Robert Wright and Mike Pesca note AI works for convenience but won't fully replace high-value human-hosted shows yet.
Decentralization Often Re-Consolidates
- Early blogging felt like decentralization but consolidated as a few blogs gained dominance.
- Substack and newsletter proliferation risk attention dilution and another wave of consolidation.






