Complexity and Collapse | The Honest Sorcerer

Aug 19, 2025

Delve into the unsettling realization that modern civilization is on a path toward collapse. Discover how diminishing returns on resources threaten complex societies. The conversation challenges misconceptions about technology, revealing that societal decline is a gradual, multi-decade process. Embrace declining fertility as a natural adjustment and explore how some communities might thrive amidst chaos. Learn about the potential of innovation grounded in sustainability and the power of local knowledge in navigating future crises.

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Energy–Materials Feedback Limits Growth

Energy and materials form a feedback loop that powers the entire economy and underpins complexity.
Diminishing returns on easier-to-extract resources progressively brake growth and raise systemic costs.

INSIGHT

Depletion Is A Slow Brake, Not A Cliff

Depletion is a gradual loss of high-quality resources, not a sudden stop, which increases extraction cost over time.
That rising cost acts like a brake causing slower growth and eventual contraction of complex systems.

INSIGHT

Complexity’s Hidden Maintenance Tax

Societies add non-productive roles to manage complexity until maintenance burdens exceed benefits.
When marginal administrative cost becomes negative, simplification or collapse becomes likely.

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Modern techno-industrial civilization is running up against the law of diminishing returns - and societal collapse is inevitable. B, author of The Honest Sorcerer blog, reveals why our civilizational complexity carries the seeds of its own destruction. Highlights include:

What led B (who also shares his reasons for remaining anonymous) from believing modern civilization would persist for centuries to recognizing collapse as inevitable;
Why diminishing returns on energy, materials, and innovation are central to the collapse of complex societies;
Why societal collapse is a long process taking place over decades or centuries rather than a single event, unfolding as a stair-step decline with sharp drops in complexity followed by brief recoveries and stabilizations;
Why declining fertility rates should be embraced as a natural adjustment to overpopulation, rather than a cause for elite-driven panic;
Why collapse will be liberating for some, devastating for most, and why adaptation to a simpler life will favor poorer communities that already know how to live simply;
How and when to strategically leverage large-scale political change, and the role writers, thinkers, and local action can play in helping people face collapse more calmly .

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