We have an amazing duo on the podcast today to share the short but impactful conversation about their ups and downs in the academy and their creative work. Thank you Laila McCloud and T.J. Stewart for joining us on the mic!

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Keep up with our guests' work on Google Scholar

Dr. McCloud Dr. Stewart

Check out the single "Never Imagined" by T.J. Stewart

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6.6 Pouring Into Each Other