

256 - Joel Monk & Karim Hirani: The Therapy-Coaching Boundary is Transformational
Sep 24, 2025
Karim Hirani, a transformational coach, joins Joel Monk to explore the evolving boundary between coaching and therapy. They discuss why this question is crucial now, emphasizing the need for coaches to adapt alongside societal changes. The conversation highlights the concept of 'transformational practitioners' who prioritize presence and ethical rigor. Karim introduces the four C's of ethical inquiry and underscores the importance of making boundaries conscious. Together, they reflect on coaching's role in fostering connection and leadership during turbulent times.
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Boundary As A Transformational Edge
- The coaching–therapy boundary is best seen as a living, transformational edge rather than a fixed line imposed from outside.
- Holding it as a transformational boundary invites ongoing practitioner development and deeper ethics.
Clients Bring Deeper Liminal Issues
- Coaches must evolve because clients now bring deeper, liminal and collective concerns that old models don't fully address.
- Meeting the whole client requires new capacities beyond technique and fixed rules.
Move From Rules To Authorship
- Mastery involves evolving from following external rules to authoring your own transformational approach.
- Practitioners may seek a third integrative identity (e.g., 'alchemist' or 'transformational practitioner').