“All I knew was hustle.”

Roland sits down with Tim Allen (not that Tim Allen), founder of Kopa Home Services. The real “Tool Man,” Tim’s got his hands in many areas, including handyman work, property management, real estate investing, and more. Roland and Tim cover marketing strategies for when you have no idea how to market your services, the struggle to find the right hires, and building street cred. And when are you ready to take the step with a software system like Housecall Pro? Tim knows and answers that question for those on the fence. He wraps up the interview with sound advice we all need to remember.