What connects the overnight success of Oliver Anthony with alien landings in Brazil? This week's podcast will give you the answer.

Matthew Dear is a musician, producer, and DJ, who also teaches at the University Of Michigan. He's also very much a part of the Ghostly Int. label, which he has in common with recent guest Sam Valenti.

As the above might suggest, this was a wide ranging discussion also covering many of the AI-related issues I talked about with Mat Dryhurst last week, as well as minimal, Detroit, and sampling.

Check this one out, you might learn something!

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