On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

America is polarized. Could this writer's new approach fix it?

Oct 20, 2025
Writer Chloé Valdary, founder of Theory of Enchantment, explores the roots of America’s polarization and proposes a transformative approach to depolarization. She discusses how fear drives dehumanizing rhetoric and explains the concept of 'trance states' influenced by media. Valdary emphasizes treating people as individuals rather than political abstractions, advocating for practices like singing and dancing to foster connection. She highlights the importance of conscious rage in activism and offers insights on uplifting criticism to bridge divides.
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Fear As The Core Driver Of Polarization

  • Polarization is driven by a pervasive frequency of fear that shows up in people's bodies and speech.
  • Chloé Valdary argues fear spreads easily because it is a felt nervous-system state that bonds people into tribalism.
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Media-Induced Trance Amplifies Outrage

  • Social media and media content induce trance-like states that bypass reflective thinking and spike fight-or-flight reactions.
  • Those trance states make people more susceptible to viral fear and outrage that can escalate to violence.
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Re-Enchantment Starts With Self-Love

  • The Theory of Enchantment posits the world is fundamentally good and we can rediscover that by falling in love with the world.
  • Re-enchantment begins with learning to love and accept ourselves to reduce projection and conflict.
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