#162 "Why Human Creativity Still Wins in an AI-Driven World with Catherine Holt and Dr. Michael Orkin"

"AI can help us get to a destination faster... but it's not without some kind of oversight." - Catherine Holt

Cat Holt is a marketing strategist, entrepreneur, and brand builder who has shaped some of the most iconic campaigns in modern advertising, including Progressive Insurance's Dr. Rick campaign. She is the Founder and Chief Brand Officer of Coologee, Inc., where she leads a one-team approach that blends agency expertise with client-side insight to drive measurable business impact. Cat also co-founded Lion + Owl, a kids' apparel brand that combines innovative design with a mission to promote kindness and inclusion. Previously, she held senior leadership roles at Falls & Co., Progressive Insurance, and several top agencies, helping brands evolve, grow, and connect with audiences in meaningful ways.

Website: https://coologee.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/catkolodij

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coologee/#

Substack: https://catholtcoologee.substack.com/

Michael Orkin is a professor, consultant, researcher, and author. His most recent book is "The Story of Chance – Beyond the Margin of Error" (Innovative Ink, 2025). He has appeared on numerous podcasts and TV shows and has been an invited speaker at many conferences. Dr. Orkin has a B.A. in Mathematics and a Ph.D. in Statistics from the

University of California at Berkeley. He is currently a mathematics professor at Berkeley City College and Professor of Statistics Emeritus at California State University, East Bay.orm)

Website: https://drmikeorkin.com

LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-mike-orkin-5600584

Substack: https://drmikeorkin.substack.com/

In this episode, we explore how data, strategy, and creativity intersect to drive smarter decisions, stronger brands, and meaningful impact. Dr. Orkin and Cat Holt share insights from their respective worlds of statistics and marketing, showing how analysis and storytelling work together to shape success.

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