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The Allan Gray Podcast

24. How money tells the story of humanity – with David McWilliams

Feb 11, 2025
46:16
Many investors focus on trying to figure out how new technologies might change the world so that they can identify and back the likely winners. But according to renowned Irish economist and bestselling author David McWilliams, the greatest, enduring technological innovation of modern civilisation is not artificial intelligence or the internet – it is money. In conversation with Allan Gray chief investment officer Duncan Artus, McWilliams explains why he believes that money – a social technology – has changed the direction of humanity, and why it continues to influence the development of the world. Through money, we take a tour of the global investment universe, discussing everything from Trump and trade wars to credit cycles and currencies. Allan Gray website · Allan Gray | Could 2025 be the most consequential year in our lifetime?

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