Revisiting Aquinas' Five Ways w/ Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P., Prof. Robert Koons, & Prof. Daniel Bonevac
Aug 1, 2024
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Join Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P., a philosopher and theologian, alongside Professors Robert Koons and Daniel Bonevac, both experts in metaphysics and logic. They dive into the contemporary significance of Aquinas' Five Ways, discussing common misconceptions about motion and causality. The guests challenge mechanical views of time, emphasizing a metaphysical First Mover. They also explore God's simplicity and the relevance of Aquinas' thought today, highlighting the dynamic interplay between philosophy and theology.
The professors argue that Aquinas' first way emphasizes the metaphysical nature of change, challenging misconceptions tied to outdated mechanical concepts.
Aquinas' second and third ways recontextualize the necessity of a first cause by focusing on existence and modal implications, enhancing our understanding of God.
Deep dives
Collaboration on Aquinas's Five Ways
Professors Koons and Bonnebak, along with Father Gregory Pine, discuss their long-standing collaboration on a project focused on the five arguments for God's existence presented by Thomas Aquinas. They highlight the surprising fact that, despite the significance of Aquinas's work in philosophy, the five ways have received relatively little critical engagement since their inception 750 years ago. The professors aim to bring fresh perspectives, drawing upon their knowledge of original languages and contemporary logical analysis, to dissect these arguments anew. They approach Aquinas's work with a sympathetic lens, intending to counter common misconceptions about his arguments being outdated or flawed.
Misinterpretations of the First Way
The first way, which argues for the necessity of a prime mover, is often misunderstood as relying heavily on outdated mechanical concepts. Critics frequently use contemporary physics, like inertia, to argue that motion can occur without an external mover, undermining Aquinas's argument. However, the professors assert that the argument is fundamentally about the metaphysics behind change and time, emphasizing that time itself is contingent upon change. They argue that recognizing the philosophical nature of the first way leads to a deeper understanding of causality that transcends mere physical mechanics.
Distinct Interpretations of the Second and Third Ways
The second way, often viewed through the lens of temporal causation, is more accurately interpreted as addressing the existence of the universe itself rather than its ongoing conservation. This interpretation pivots away from temporal discussions towards understanding the necessity of a first cause for existence, regardless of time. Conversely, the third way is misread when understood as hinging on past events rather than the modal implications of possibility concerning existence. By recontextualizing both arguments, the professors illuminate how Aquinas builds a framework that leads logically from contingent beings to an ultimate necessary being.
The Emergent Picture of God from Aquinas's Arguments
The discussions surrounding the five ways reveal a multifaceted portrait of God as an uncaused, necessary being whose essence is existence itself. The professors note that achieving a true understanding of God requires exploring deeper metaphysical principles of simplicity and actuality, as articulated by Aquinas. They argue that the characteristics established through these arguments provide a foundation for a fuller comprehension of divine nature that aligns with both metaphysical and theological perspectives. This ongoing examination aims not just to affirm God's existence, but to articulate the divine attributes that emerge distinctly from Aquinas's logical exploration.
Are Aquinas' Five Ways for proving the existence of God still relevant today? Join Fr. Gregory Pine, O.P. of Aquinas 101, Godsplaining, and Pints with Aquinas for an off-campus conversation with Prof. Robert Koona & Prof. Daniel Bonevac about new insights that contemporary scholars glean from these arguments after 750 years.
Robert C. (“Rob”) Koons is a professor of philosophy at the University of Texas at Austin, M. A. Oxford, Ph.D. UCLA. He is the author or co-author of five books, including The Atlas of Reality with Timothy H. Pickavance (Wiley-Blackwell, 2017) and Is Thomas’s Aristotelian Philosophy of Nature Obsolete? (St. Augustine Press, 2022). He is the co-editor of four anthologies, including The Waning of Materialism (OUP, 2010) and Classical Theism (Routledge 2023). He has been working recently on an Aristotelian interpretation of quantum theory, on defending and articulating hylomorphism in contemporary terms, and on interpreting and defending Thomas's Five Ways.
Prof. Daniel Bonevac is a professor of philosophy at the University of Texas at Austin. He works mainly in metaphysics, philosophy of mathematics, semantics, and philosophical logic. His book Reduction in the Abstract Sciences received the Johnsonian Prize from The Journal of Philosophy. The author of five books and editor or co-editor of four others, Professor Bonevac's articles include “Against Conditional Obligation” (Noûs), "Sellars v. the Given" (Philosophy and Phenomenological Research), "Reflection Without Equilibrium," (Journal of Philosophy), "Free Choice Permission Is Strong Permission" (Synthese, with Nicholas Asher), "The Conditional Fallacy," (Philosophical Review, with Josh Dever and David Sosa), “The Counterexample Fallacy” (Mind, also with Dever and Sosa), and “The Argument from Miracles” and “Two Theories of Analogical Predication” (Oxford Studies in the Philosophy of Religion). He was Chairman of the Department of Philosophy from 1991 to 2001.
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