Downstream: Why No One Should Have More Than £10 Million w/ Ingrid Robeyns
Feb 5, 2024
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Ingrid Robeyns discusses the case against extreme wealth and advocates for a wealth cap to tackle poverty. They address criticisms, explore ways to implement limitarianism, analyze the influence of Christian theology and the problems of philanthropy, and discuss the impact of wealth concentrations on politics. They also delve into Marx's perspective on society and emphasize the importance of implementing concrete policies.
Implementing a cap on personal wealth is necessary to tackle poverty and prevent the harms caused by extreme wealth concentration.
Limitarianism as a moral principle guides the need to design economic and social institutions that limit wealth accumulation, without advocating for politically oppressive systems like communism.
Deep dives
The Need for Wealth Limits
Ingrid Robbins, a philosopher, discusses her new book, Limiterianism, which argues for the implementation of a hard limit on personal wealth. She emphasizes that excessive wealth accumulation is morally indefensible, highlighting the symmetric nature of poverty and extreme wealth. Robbins also points out the harms caused by extreme wealth concentration, including threats to democracy, ecological sustainability, and the violation of fundamental rights. She argues that no one can morally deserve to be a multimillionaire. Robbins also explores the ethical implications of wealth and the potential for an ethical fortune that is not steeped in exploitation or unfairness.
The Concept of Limitarianism
Robbins distinguishes limitarianism as a moral principle guiding economic and social institutions that need to be designed to limit wealth accumulation. She clarifies that limitarianism is not equivalent to communism and rejects politically oppressive systems. Robbins emphasizes the urgency to reduce inequality and the necessity for an open and honest discussion about economic systems. While acknowledging objections and misconceptions, such as being labeled as jealous or communist, she argues for the importance of exploring various economic systems and finding common ground to address the political urgency for reducing inequality.
The Problems with Excessive Wealth
Robbins highlights the problems associated with accumulating excessive wealth. She argues that beyond a certain point, having too much money is wasteful and does not contribute to a meaningful life. Extreme wealth concentration has detrimental effects on democracy, ecological sustainability, and fundamental rights. Robbins also challenges the notion of deserved wealth, emphasizing that only a small space exists for deserving wealth. She discusses the theoretical possibility of an ethical fortune, but highlights that even in such cases, multiple arguments apply against the accumulation of excessive wealth.
Structural, Fiscal, and Ethical Action
Robbins explores the three ways to implement limitarianism: structural, fiscal, and ethical action. The structural aspect involves shaping the economy and reevaluating the balance between labor and capital, with a focus on power dynamics and institutions. The fiscal aspect includes taxation, benefits, and subsidies that reduce inequality. Ethical action refers to individual responsibility and decision-making, both within a fair economy and in the face of an unjust system. Robbins argues that these three approaches should work together to address inequalities and move toward a more just and equitable society.
Should there be a cap on how much wealth one person can have? If we’re serious about tackling poverty, the answer can only be yes, says Ingrid Robeyns, author of Limitarianism: The Case Against Extreme Wealth. Robeyns tells Ash Sarkar what a wealth cap could do for the world, how the global north is living […]
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