The first episode of our new call-in show is here, and we have two callers who seemed to be totally unrelated: a new rancher in Texas, and a Swiftie with Cerebral Palsy in New York.

But (get your red string and your tinfoil hat) everything is connected! Especially us.

That’s easy to forget when we’re constantly pushed to see each other as the enemy, and something we need to remember now more than ever.

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Interdependence, Trump Flags, and Taylor Swift