316 - DC Schindler - The Duality of Art (Climbing Mt Sophia)
Nov 16, 2023
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DC Schindler, an art and philosophy enthusiast, joins the podcast to explore the duality of art and beauty. They discuss the relationship between art and technology, the nature of technology in artistic creation, and the invitational character of beauty. They also touch upon the duality between art and technology in different contexts and the significance of true beauty in church art.
Beauty and technology have a complex relationship, often incorporating both positive and negative aspects.
Beauty is seen as the manifestation of freedom and the integration of order and particularity.
The example of the Amish community showcases the importance of creating and appreciating genuine beauty in the face of an increasingly superficial culture.
Deep dives
The Relationship Between Beauty and Technology
Beauty and technology have a complex relationship, often incorporating both positive and negative aspects. The seductive power of art can lead to the abstract and the dual nature of art in scripture and mythology is explored. Plato's cautionary view of art and its potential to deceive is mentioned. Beauty is seen as the manifestation of freedom and the integration of order and particularity. The paradox of beauty in the extreme of ugliness, as seen in the cross, is discussed. The importance of discernment and prudence in the use of technology and the pursuit of genuine beauty is emphasized.
The Duality of Beauty and Technology
Beauty and technology have a dual nature, both offering benefits and potential dangers. The ancient understanding of art as applied science is examined, highlighting its practical and purposeful nature. However, the modern approach to technology tends to prioritize power and efficiency. There is a call to find the balance between pure expression and the expression of something useful and purposeful. The notion of beauty as an appearance of freedom is discussed, emphasizing the importance of responding to beauty properly for its transformative potential.
The Paradoxical Nature of Beauty
Beauty is explored in its paradoxical nature, revealing that it can arise from contrast, unity, and the integration of life and art. The Christian understanding of beauty is discussed, where extreme ugliness can be transformed to reveal hidden beauty. The role of paradox and contrast in beauty is examined, drawing examples from artistic depictions of the crucifixion and medieval contrapposto in painting. The paradox of beauty in suffering, martyrdom, and relics is mentioned, as well as the need for prudence in discerning the balance between experiencing beauty and indulging in fascination.
Navigating the Ambiguity of Beauty and Technology
The evolving understanding of beauty and technology is explored, highlighting the modern inclination to prioritize power and efficiency over genuine beauty. The dangers of pursuing immediate pleasure and superficial forms of beauty are discussed, along with the need for discernment and prudence. The example of the Amish community is given, showcasing their approach of integrating technology while considering its impact on their community. The importance of creating and appreciating genuine beauty in the face of an increasingly superficial culture is emphasized.
The Connection Between Beauty and Tradition
The relationship between beauty and tradition is examined, emphasizing the need to integrate tradition without falling into nostalgia or pastiche. The role of beauty in engaging with reality and our human experience is discussed, reflecting on the contrast between the transcendent and the immanent. The distinction between genuine technique and technological use is explored, emphasizing the importance of beauty in preserving traditions and communities. Ultimately, the pursuit and creation of genuine beauty is seen as a strategy for navigating the challenges of our current world.
This is a repost of a great discussion I had on the Climbing Mt. Sophia channel alongside DC Schindler. We discuss beauty, art, freedom, techne and technology, primarily exploring the question: what is beauty?
Original: Climbing Mt. Sophia - Beauty, Art and Freedom with Jonathan Pageau and DC Schindler: https://youtu.be/pIikYtFS4Q8?si=SlFG5MR0ZtbmcL9I
Jonathan’s video on contemporary art: The Search for Participation in Contemporary Art: https://youtu.be/EWc7TKm9jho?si=WuwCjk3Tb3Zdkpmg
David and Ken’s series on Freedom from Reality: Part 1; Good, Functionality and Unease with DC Schindler: https://youtu.be/kSoCVbcmXfg?si=qkmNLSc2J7DLcDQA
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